TopGearUK - LaFerrari vs McLaren P1 vs Porsche 918
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This is not that. There was no team of technicians changing nearly everything they could to get the best lap. They showed up with some tires, to suggest anything else is wrong. Those tires are available at purchase when you buy the P1. Ferrari is a whole different thing with how they prep for track days. The car they test is nothing like the car made available to customers.
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John,
Look at the video again when they ran the P1 with the Trofeo R tires. There are clearly two mechanics, wearing Mclaren company pants (as indicated by the back pocket), putting the tires on the P1 during the retest. So one can assume that on the second retest, Mclaren did send a crew of at least 2 Mclaren mechanics (12:07 mark)
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I think that was the truck driver
Well Jethro didn't know how to put the 918's roof on, or it was too time-consuming, so you can't expect him to know how to change a wheel, he'd still be there now for goodness sake.
Ha!
Possibly close to the truth though. Have you ever seen the jacking procedure for a P1? It's not rocket science by any means, but I wouldn't just send my car and a spare set of wheels/tires to any random guy who had a floor jack. It involves using the lift function, then removing a small panel with a few bolts, etc. ~5 minutes and no sweat if you know how to do it, or probably a cracked diffuser if you don't.
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I obviously saw that but that doesn't mean anything other than they put on the tires. Look, if you have some evidence to suggest they doctored up the car beyond what is stock then I'm all ears but a clip of some dudes in pants doesn't mean they went full Ferrari and changed the car.
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Look, I'm not saying Mclaren doctored up the car but pointing out the obvious fact, which is Mclaren did send a tech crew with the P1 on the re-test. Take it at face value and make you own conclusion.
Porsche almost never sends any tech support to these magazine tests (with the exception of the Autocar test, which is well documented by the article), and that is a fact as well.
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McLaren also rarely sends a tech crew on these tests as evidenced by the first timed lap and many others. It just so happens that this time they sent some people with the trofeos and apparently it's not as well documented.
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Just now from Jethro
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@JethroBovingdon Did the McLaren team that brought the trofeos give it the full ferrari laptop treatment and make it nothing like cust cars?
Jethro Bovingdon ‏@JethroBovingdon
@JonGalt_III No. Didn't touch it save for changing wheels.
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@JethroBovingdon Did the McLaren team that brought the trofeos give it the full ferrari laptop treatment and make it nothing like cust cars?
Jethro Bovingdon ‏@JethroBovingdon
@JonGalt_III No. Didn't touch it save for changing wheels.
Porsche beat McLaren again
Hi. Im car journalist, leading Russian group vkontaklte and made a couple of articles why 918 is the only one extreme-technological car (that is what I call "hypercar") in the World, even not speaking about clear speed, while McLaren is just highly tuned MP4, and LaFerrari - track-only supercar.
But in conclusion, clear win on track as well for 918 (as expected for me). Here are tests that I count as useful.
Anglesey (evo)
1.12.4 918 (with open-roof, Weissach?)
1.12.6 P1
1:0 918 - P1
Portimao (Chris harris & co)
1.53.57 P1 (propably more laps done + harris knows P1 better + not-legal track mode)
1.53.98 918 (Weissach?)
1.54.25 LaFerrari (worst possible track for Ferrari)
1:1
Thermal Club (Alejandro Salomon)
1.18.44 918 Weissach
1.18.46 LaFerrari
1.18.82 P1
2:1
Laguna Seca
1.29.89 918
1.30.71 P1 (even on semi-slicks, and much more laps)
3:1
Top gear test track
no results, much debats, which means 918 was faster + faster top speed
4:1
Finally, the main test worth all other: Nurburgrind Nordschleife
6.57 918
no result P1 = it LOST. I guess, it can't hold the charge the whole lap + in track-mode you can't go on curbs and loosing the time. Looking at the time of 7.04 in hands of Walter Rerhl, I guess the time of P1 is above 7.10s and under 7.20s.
5:1 (3 clear wins, 2 indirect)
Also, please note no German tests with some figures was done, but many British (where they tried P1 looks better than it is) and couple of independent American (where 918 was dominating everyting else).
+ clear win for 918 on 1.4 mile and not much loose on long races.
918 is more complicated, more practical, easy to use in both track and city, it's cheaper, more cars made. As fasr it was with 959 and Carrera GT, Porsche again on top of the world, McLaren and Ferrari play for 2nd place.
So...
Hi. Im car journalist, leading Russian group vkontaklte and made a couple of articles why 918 is the only one extreme-technological car (that is what I call "hypercar") in the World, even not speaking about clear speed, while McLaren is just highly tuned MP4, and LaFerrari - track-only supercar.
But in conclusion, clear win on track as well for 918 (as expected for me). Here are tests that I count as useful.
Anglesey (evo)
1.12.4 918 (with open-roof, Weissach?)
1.12.6 P1
1:0 918 - P1
Portimao (Chris harris & co)
1.53.57 P1 (propably more laps done + harris knows P1 better + not-legal track mode)
1.53.98 918 (Weissach?)
1.54.25 LaFerrari (worst possible track for Ferrari)
1:1
Thermal Club (Alejandro Salomon)
1.18.44 918 Weissach
1.18.46 LaFerrari
1.18.82 P1
2:1
Laguna Seca
1.29.89 918
1.30.71 P1 (even on semi-slicks, and much more laps)
3:1
Top gear test track
no results, much debats, which means 918 was faster + faster top speed
4:1
Finally, the main test worth all other: Nurburgrind Nordschleife
6.57 918
no result P1 = it LOST. I guess, it can't hold the charge the whole lap + in track-mode you can't go on curbs and loosing the time. Looking at the time of 7.04 in hands of Walter Rerhl, I guess the time of P1 is above 7.10s and under 7.20s.
5:1 (3 clear wins, 2 indirect)
Also, please note no German tests with some figures was done, but many British (where they tried P1 looks better than it is) and couple of independent American (where 918 was dominating everyting else).
+ clear win for 918 on 1.4 mile and not much loose on long races.
918 is more complicated, more practical, easy to use in both track and city, it's cheaper, more cars made. As fasr it was with 959 and Carrera GT, Porsche again on top of the world, McLaren and Ferrari play for 2nd place.
So...
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Russian journalism is known for often arriving at conclusions that are unique to it.
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Haha, the same we think about British journalism
No matter who am I, 918 is the best car in the world
Your certainly entitled to your opinion. The only thing I'd do if given (would never buy) a 918 is sell it on and buy a P1. These three cars are so close in track and straight line times that the avg man would never know the difference. Then, it becomes subjective and I've never EVER liked Porsches. So it's P1 first and LaFerrari second for me. This is my opinion which I'm certainly entitled too as well.
btw...not sure if it's different in Russia but when referencing a race "kart" (at least in the US and UK) it is, Kart. With a "K". Carts are for shopping. ;-)
btw...not sure if it's different in Russia but when referencing a race "kart" (at least in the US and UK) it is, Kart. With a "K". Carts are for shopping. ;-)
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Russians are BEST BEST BEST!Haha, the same we think about British journalism
No matter who am I, 918 is the best car in the world
Their thoughts are BEST BEST BEST!
918 is BEST BEST BEST!
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