TopGearUK - LaFerrari vs McLaren P1 vs Porsche 918
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There was no chance the Laugher was going to weigh 1250kg, it was simply impossible with their big V12 and hybrid bits. I just don't understand why they keep up with this crap....
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My fearless predictions, when the dust settles:
LaFerrari is the best street car
P1 is the best roadcourse car (faster circuits)
918 is the best autocross / tight circuit car (AWD)
P1 curb weight is 100 lbs heavier than the LaFerrari with the same quantity of fuel onboard (larger battery / hybrid system)
I'll weigh both cars once the LF arrives. I'll also offer an unbiased comparison of the P1 vs LF.
LaFerrari is the best street car
P1 is the best roadcourse car (faster circuits)
918 is the best autocross / tight circuit car (AWD)
P1 curb weight is 100 lbs heavier than the LaFerrari with the same quantity of fuel onboard (larger battery / hybrid system)
I'll weigh both cars once the LF arrives. I'll also offer an unbiased comparison of the P1 vs LF.
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If we were to go by Pagani's weight claim, P1 seems to be the lighter car. That LaFerrari has been weighed by the owner and it's been reported on GCF as I said before. The poster is friends with some head Porsche engineers, so it's pretty reliable. Still, looking forward to your weight results!
Based on two claims I've heard on measured weight, the P1 may be ~200lbs lighter.
Based on factory claimed PWR, the LaF should be 11% faster than a P1 in rolling acceleration and even more at high speed. I haven't seen any evidence of that and a sync'd 0-200kph run on YT shows the P1 to be faster below 200kph and another run shows them pretty much identical 200-250kph. So I tend to believe the two customer claims on actual weight.
Based on factory claimed PWR, the LaF should be 11% faster than a P1 in rolling acceleration and even more at high speed. I haven't seen any evidence of that and a sync'd 0-200kph run on YT shows the P1 to be faster below 200kph and another run shows them pretty much identical 200-250kph. So I tend to believe the two customer claims on actual weight.
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P1 weighs ~1,500kg curb (no driver). This is coming from a very reliable source.
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Hey Mikey-B, Can you have your P1 weighed? Or anyone else here with a P1?
P1: 3,394lbs full tank no driver, in what I assume would be the heaviest spec (full leather everything, the heavier sound system, floormats, both harnesses, my iphone cable, and probably a bit of mud from my boots). 3,548lbs with me in it, which served as a nice verification that my scales were well-calibrated to within a couple lbs (nice wireless intercomps). 60/40 distribution. Happy to post photos later when I get to a real computer, if it will finally put this weight debate to bed.
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Thought I'd share this here, since it's 918, P1 and TG related. We've obviously heard the stories about McLaren pulling out of the test against the 918. The other un-told half of the story is that Porsche sent a lightened 918 for the test and that is why McLaren took the decision not to participate in it.
Also, not sure if anyone has noticed it before, but the 918 that ran the 'Ring wasn't stock either. Here's a clue (look at the roof):
Stock:
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And the record holder:
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Also, not sure if anyone has noticed it before, but the 918 that ran the 'Ring wasn't stock either. Here's a clue (look at the roof):
Stock:
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And the record holder:
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I see what you mean, neither of the stock cars have a laptop in passenger seat scandalous
scandalous
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Maybe to compensate the weight added with Vbox, laptop, camera, helmet, racing suit, gloves, racing boots, etc
You are just nickpicking.
Now post P1 photos @ NS...
Oh LOL, Porsche, always so quick to accuse Nissan of cheating, yet here you are caught red-handed. Is this the same WS 918 that's been doing the rounds with magazines?
In fairness, it's the same for everybody. Everybody else ran with those added items too. Like you'll see someone attempting a fast 'ring lap with no helmet.Maybe to compensate the weight added with Vbox, laptop, camera, helmet, racing suit, gloves, racing boots, etc
You are just nickpicking.
Now post P1 photos @ NS...
I would actually think the 918 makes a good street car. Producing over 700hp at 4000rpm is neat trick.
Oh come off this nonsense. The whole top gear P1 pulling out rubbish was obviously due to the weather as it was bloody pouring down at the time. No need to come up with more silly conspiracy theories as some people did to knock the P1 at the time.
And Porsche have long admitted that for safety reasons they ran a fixed roof 918 for the record ring run. As long as they didn't re-engineer the chassis/a pillars to lighten the car with the fixed roof, the net weight saving vs the targa roof panels will be bugger all. The roof panels of the 10 year older CGT weigh next to nothing already and you can be sure the 918's will weigh even less.
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Haha, good point.In fairness, it's the same for everybody. Everybody else ran with those added items too. Like you'll see someone attempting a fast 'ring lap with no helmet.
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Same as Porsche fan boys. And Ferrari (plus Ferrari's jackbooted view on journalism). Really just everyone pissing in the wind and expecting not to smell bad after.
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