cf tub ?

this somehow looks a bit like Maserati is trying to do an own 570s/600LT ... real question is if it will reach the Mclaren's last generation level of agility and be a notable car or just a loud but not so fast one like the previous ones ...

 

cf tub ?

this somehow looks a bit like Maserati is trying to do an own 570s/600LT ... real question is if it will reach the Mclaren's last generation level of agility and be noble car or just a loud but not so fast one like the previous ones ...

The rumors were CF monocoque chassis. The 621HP figure seems high for a 3.0L 7-8K RPM motor. I was expecting a hybrid... ?

 

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Maserati MC20 reveal: Watch the new sports car debut here
Today, we welcome a new mid-engine sports car into the world.

Sean Szymkowski
Sept. 9, 2020

Happy Maserati MC20 day, everyone. In just a few hours, we'll be treated to a new sports car. It's 2020, we have to take these little victories.
Maserati initially planned to reveal the the MC20 this past May, but scrapped plans as the coronavirus pandemic swept across the world. We then learned the car would make a digital debut in September. And here we are.

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The MC20 will carry the brand's racing heritage forward and will offer both a traditional internal-combustion engine setup and a purely electric powertrain. It's not clear if one or the other will debut today; perhaps we'll see both.
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Today, we welcome a new mid-engine sports car into the world.

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Eh, not feeling it based on what I see so far. Interior reminds me of the new FGT. Exterior not that classy. Seems like an R8 or GT competitor.

It's interesting, but it doesn't at all draw me in like the MC12 did.

 

yes i feel the same ... the whole shape is a bit plump for Italian design (at least on the pics) ... somehow you would more want to see sth. Like the Alfa 8c ...

 

Feels like 918 spyder and Tesla roadster (old one) mixed together and had a bastard child.... Where are the sexy curves from the past like Birdcage, Bera, etc?

 

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Maserati MC20 Sports Car Revealed With 621 HP And An EV Option

Sep 09, 2020

By: Jeff Perez

Maserati's long-awaited coupe arrives with a powerful V6 and a fully electric option.
Remember the Maserati Alfieri concept from 2014? Remember when the company promised a production version you could actually buy shortly after said debut? Well, it's 2020, and while we aren't exactly getting a road-going version of the Alfieri, the company's latest creation might be even better. This is the Maserati MC20.
Though it may not share the same name as the concept – or even the same looks – the Maserati MC20 packs more of a punch than the Alfieri likely ever could. The MC20 has a hugely powerful V6 and brand new technology inside, and it even comes in three different flavors: gas, electric, and convertible.

All-New Engine
The traditional gas-powered MC20 is the one we’re most excited about. Powered by a new twin-turbocharged, twin-combustion 3.0-liter V6, the Maserati produces a whopping 621 horsepower (463 kilowatts) and 538 pound-feet (729 newton-meters), all of it routed through an eight-speed dual-clutch transmission. That means it can sprint to 62 miles per hour (100 kilometers per hour) in 2.9 seconds and on to a top speed of 201 mph (323 kmh).

Maserati developed the MC20's "Nettuno" V6 completely in-house – this isn't some Alfa Romeo engine on steroids. Using fancy Formula 1–inspired tech, like an additional combustion event separate from the main chamber to increase power, the MC20 boasts a best-in-class power-to-weight ratio of 2.3 kilograms per horsepower, meaning each pony only has to lug around 5.1 pounds. The sports car tips the scales at a mere 3,306 pounds (1,500 kilograms) thanks in part to a lightweight monocoque construction.


Four traditional modes – Wet, GT, Sport, and Corsa – are available via the drive mode selector, with a fifth "ESC Off" option that disables traction control completely. Each mode adjusts things like steering feel and throttle sensitivity, as well as the adaptive suspension. The double-wishbone setup with active shock absorbers raises and lowers the car depending on the drive mode.
All of those same features (other than the engine, obviously) carry over to the electric version. And though Maserati hasn't provided details like battery size or charging, the company does promise a 0 to 62 mph sprint of 2.8 seconds, a top speed of 193 mph (310 kmh), and 201 miles of range (323 km) in Europe (US figures will likely differ).
Aerodynamic Design
At the core of each MC20 is a monocoque carbon-fiber tub – similar to what you get in many modern supercars. Developed by Maserati and Dallara, that chassis can accommodate all three versions (coupe, electric, and convertible) with only slight modifications. Using that monocoque tub as the base, Maserati designers spent more than 2,000 hours in Dallara's wind tunnel sculpting the final look. And that time spent seems well worth it.

Gallery: Maserati MC20


Maserati MC20
Maserati MC20
Maserati MC20


The Maserati MC20 is definitely a looker. Up front, the coupe has a sizeable Trident badge embedded within a simple mesh grille, sharp LED headlights that extend up onto the front fenders, and numerous creases and divots indicative of its aerodynamic nature. Exposed carbon fiber coats the front splitters, roof and side sills, and makes its way to the rear.

The rear end of the MC20 looks more streamlined, with horizontal LED taillights, dual exhaust tips just under the license plate, and a large carbon fiber diffuser below that. And the wheels are very sharp. The new Maserati MC20 comes in six fancy-sounding new colors: Bianco Audace, Giallo Genio, Rosso Vincente, Blu Infinito, Nero Enigma, and Grigio Mistero.
Upscale Interior
Much of the carbon fiber found on the exterior carries over to the interior as well. The center column, paddle shifters, and driver-focused steering wheel all wear the lightweight weave. The rest of the cabin – the seats, dash, and door panels in particular – sport a mix of Alcantara and stitched leather with blue accents.


The MC20 comes standard with a 10.3-inch touchscreen display that runs the new Maserati Intelligent Assistant (MIA), as well as a 10.3-inch digital instrument cluster. The infotainment system promises more personalization and features than any other Maserati system before it, including Maserati Connect, which alerts the owner to things like service dates and security features, all accessible via a smartphone.

The Maserati MC20 starts at $210,000 in the US. Expect the super sports car to hit the market next year.

Maserati MC20 Sports Car Revealed With 621 HP And An EV Option

The Maserati MC20 sports car debuts with a new V6 with 621 horsepower, as well as EV and convertible options.

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Maserati MC20, an Elegant Mid-Engined Supercar, Could Herald a Renaissance
Maserati's latest reboot starts here, with this beautiful new flagship that's destined for racing and will be priced in the relatively affordable $200,000 range.

Maserati MC20, an Elegant Mid-Engined Supercar, Could Herald a Renaissance

This beautiful new flagship is destined for racing and will be priced around $200,000.

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Not bad. But I think I would rather have a McLaren GT.

 

Hmmm take a test drive in the GT ....

 

Seems to me like it's a V6 baby 488. Does it have a carbon tub? That would put it in a different league, and when the doors go up it seems to have a fat inset that looks like it could be a carbon tub. Maseratis sell in such low numbers, normally, that this thing might become a collectors item.

Overall, I like the look.

<RANT ABOUT GRILLS THAT LOOK UGLY>
But it has a problem I have with a lot of car makes. The grill. I've never liked the Maserati grill. I've also hated the Bugatti grill. The Bugatti grill in particular is hideous and just makes the cars look awful. The BMW grill is crap too. This notion that by mashing in a vestigial shape based on a design from 100 years ago (which was needed then but certainly not now) is somehow "classy" or shows heritage has got to die. It ruins what would otherwise be very nice designs. Thank goodness Ferrari and lambo dont do it. Nor does McLaren (although mclaren with its shoving whoosh symbols into headlights and every part of the car possible is getting tired). If the only way you can show 'heritage' is through the mashing of a hideous unnecessary grill, then maybe, just maybe, you suck as a designer.
<RANT END>

 

from the press release should have cf tub and be around 1500kg ...

about the grills you are partly right and partly not in my opinion ... the grill gives the car its face. Well executed the front is the most striking sight of any car, just like a human is mostly recognized by the face ... things start to get messy when designers want to make sth new and change too much or use shapes that don't fit. For BMW, Audi and also partly Mercedes that has been especially bad the last and current generation as they want to be instantly recognizable but still need to care for a heritage look ... however if you don't get it right to integrate the grill in a beautiful yet modern way its primarily the fault of a star designer with too much ego - similar to star architects who just care about their building to change the face of a city but don't look to integrate them well with their surroundings ...

many non official renderings from the internet show that for example the new BMW 3, 4 and 7 Series could be much nicer if you don't take the grill to the extreme but stick a bit more with older shapes and just slightly update them ... same is true for many parts of the new S Class and CLS , or some cars from the Audi range.

About McLaren ... well their light design is unique ... like it or not but it makes the cars in my opinion look very futuristics and is certainly less boring than doing the same kind of lights like the others over and over again

 

They should have built something closer to the birdcage 75 design since they were already working with carbon tub and v-6.

 

yes 100% agree ... seen this way it’s a lost chance

 

I love it. Should have been a Dino, though.

 

I really thing it is born as the Dino, then swapped with the Maserati concept that is now the Ferrari Roma. The line up is more coherent like that.

 

Maserati indicates the weight as <1500kg (less than). There are already exciting options to choose from, such as a carbon roof.

Since Dallara helped with the development and chassis tuning, you can expect a lot of agility from this car. Then the car offers different driving modes, so in Corsa mode "the exhaust flaps always stay open". And when it comes to engine sound, no one has ever been able to outbid Maserati.

In my eyes an absolute enrichment of the super sports car scene.

 

I too wanted a birdcage, but honestly, that had no chance of ever entering production and never will.

 

If you look at the CF tub, and similarities to which the birdcage concept was built on the enzo carbon chassis, I dont see why it couldnt... I think its just a lost opportunity that they could have used. Who knows, maybe someone can use this chassis and build a new birdcage... Probably even easier now since its essentially a rebody...

 

The MC20 (Maserati Corsa 20): Carbon tub, hardtop Spyder to come later, 3.0L TT DOHC 24-valve V6 (with 12 spark plugs) generating 621hp @ 7,500rpm and producing 538 ft-lb torque @ 5,500rpm through an 8-speed dual-clutch tranny w/mechanically-locking rear differential, dual-wishbone suspension, five drive modes and near-dihedral doors? 0-60 in 2.9sec with a top speed of "at least" 202mph? If imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, I'd say Maserati has been watching McLaren and is definitely paying them a compliment here.

This car will be a lot o' fun to compare to the upcoming release of 2021 Sports Series Gen2 "680", or whatever it is to be called!

 

I’m less excited about the car itself than the tech and platform. Ferrari’s chassis collab with Alcoa keeps much of their sport car chassis with aluminum. With Maserati, a clean slate to work with gives them a much better starting point with cf tub and new engine tech in comparison to current mid engine offerings from Ferrari. Add in some clever marketing to bring back some of the legendary names from its past and they should have some great momentum restoring the marque.

 

I guess the new independency of Ferrari is a huge opportunity for Maserati. With the MC20, features have been realized in collaboration with Dallara and the consistent use of their own engineering resources (called Maserati Innovation Lab) that would never have been possible with Ferrari.

A few extracts from the press kit (attached, partly information already mentioned in previous posts):
Aerodynamics: Over two thousand man-hours in the Dallara Wind Tunnel and more than a thousand CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) simulations have enabled the creation of a car with refined aerodynamics which is also a genuine work of art.

Monocoque: The design of the carbon fibre monocoque has been achieved through the partnership between Maserati and Dallara, both leaders in the design and construction of racing sports cars.

Engine: The 630 horsepower 90° V 6 cylinder 3,000 cc turbo engine, called the “Nettuno”, is absolutely new and protected by an international patent, because it transfers to a road car a technology previously only found in Formula 1. It is an engine 100% made in Modena, and currently the highest-powered 6-cylinder powerplant in production. Designed component by component by the engine specialists of the Maserati technical department with constant support from the Modena Innovation Lab, it has the most advanced technology of any road-car engine on today's market.

There are three main components:
1) The pre-chamber: a combustion chamber placed between the central spark plug and the conventional
combustion chamber, to which it is connected by a series of specially shaped holes.
2) The side spark plug: a standard spark plug that provides back-up to ensure smooth engine combustion in operating conditions when the use of the pre-chamber is not necessary.
3) The dual (indirect and direct) injection system: combined with the fuel delivery pressure of 350 bar, it reduces noise at low rpm, cuts emissions and saves fuel.

The new Nettuno engine has a dual combustion chamber for each cylinder. A design which includes a prechamber, in which the main spark plug is installed. The air-fuel mixture is forced into the pre-chamber during the piston's compression stroke. Near the TDC, the main spark plug ignites the mixture in the pre-chamber, triggering pilot combustion, then propagated (via special holes) into the conventional combustion chamber. The process generates combustion with multiple flame fronts, characterised by high turbulence and thus greater efficiency; this improves the engine's overall efficiency and increases specific power output without penalising specific fuel consumption.

The new Nettuno engine generates a power output of 210 horsepower/litre. This makes it currently the best- in-class 6 cylinder engine in terms of specific power output.

 

Gets around the Mahle TJI patent.
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Nov, 2019
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FCA Italy Patents Twin Spark Plug Engine With Combustion Pre-Chamber:
Bringing F1 Technology To The Street

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Last week we told you about a Maserati development mule that is currently being driven on the streets of Modena, Italy. Not only was the two-seat sports car something new for Maserati (Previously slated for Alfa as the 8C), but our sources also tell us that the mule is powered by a new powertrain, which we now have more details on.

MoparInsiders’ sources have found a patent application filed by FCA Italy, titled “GASOLINE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE, WITH A COMBUSTION PRE-CHAMBER AND TWO SPARK PLUGS” relating to the new turbocharged V6 engine, dubbed the “Twin Spark” which is expected to develop 625 horsepower.
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Six inventors are listed on the patent application, and after some research, each inventor has an impressive background:
Fabio Bedogni – With Ferrari from 2009-Present
Stefano Magistrali – Powertrain team leader for Maserati 2014-Present
Davide Mazzoni – Engineer responsible for mechanical engine development for Ferrari 2006-Present, Experimental engine development engineer for Ferrari F1 2001-2006, Engine development engineer for Ducati 1996-2001
Ettore Musu – Responsible for Gasoline powertrain innovation for Maserati Apr 2018-Present, Powertrain innovation senior specialist for Maserati-Jan 2015-Mar 2018
Gianluca Pivetti – Ex Ferrari engineer 2013-2015
Paolo Zolesi – Engine design manager at Maserati-Jan
The patent is similar to a technology that is currently in use by Ferrari F1 with a few differences. The Ferrari F1 design uses a fuel injector as part of the combustion pre-chamber, which Mahle currently has a patent on. To get around this FCA engineers came up with a bright idea. As with the Alfa Romeo 90 degree V6, this new engine will use two fuel injectors, one directly into the combustion chamber (Direct-injected), while the other injector will be located in each cylinder intake duct (Port injection). This gets the engineers around Mahle’s patent by not having an injector in the pre-chamber but should return similar results.
Maserati Mid-Engined Super Car Mule. (Maserati).

“…The pre-chamber is, not used for engine operation with poor dosing, but to increase resistance to engine detonation. The engine can thus be configured with a high compression ratio, with a significant reduction in fuel consumption at the same power level. The second spark plug is only activated at low and medium engine loads to stabilize combustion. …”
-FCA Italy patent docs

The end goal of FCAs new patent is to reach higher power levels, see a significant reduction in power consumption, or a mix of both depending on engine load. Klaus Busse, Head of Design for AlfaRomeo, Maserati, Fiat, Abarth, and Lancia, had posted a video clip with an exciting exotic engine sound on his Instagram profile, believed to be this new engine, but it has unfortunately since been removed.
With the end goal of reaching 625 horsepower from around 3-liters of displacement, it’s no wonder that FCA engineers are looking to innovate wherever they can.

FCA Italy Patents Twin Spark Plug Engine With Combustion Pre-Chamber:

Last week we told you about a Maserati development mule that is currently being driven on the streets of Modena, Italy. Not only was the two-seat sports car something new for Maserati (Previously slated for Alfa as the 8C), but our sources also tell us that the mule is powered by a new...

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Maserati MC20 Heads To Ferrari’s Fiorano Racetrack For More Testing | Carscoops

The Maserati MC20 is powered by a 621 HP twin-turbo 3.0-liter V6

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Family member works for them. He had one of these recently, though I wasn't around at the time. Hopefully he'll get ahold of another one and I can check it out. I think it looks cool. I'd wait for the full EV version though.

This is what the 296 should have been though. Pretty weird that the Maserati has the CF tub and the 296 does not.

 

 

Pretty crap performance, relatively speaking. They are launching a 570S competitor 6 years after the 570S and when it's out of production.

Cool looking car, but massively overpriced for the performance. This car needed to some out in 2012, not 2022. A decade too late.

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2021 Maserati MC20 specs, 0-60, quarter mile, lap times, price, top speed, engine specifications, pictures, updated August 2025.

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I dare say that by far not all of these super sport cars are bought for their performance capacity. My assumption is, this base MC20 is definitely „fast enough“. Therefore, I think your statement is irrelevant for many people. An indication of this is the fact that the MC20 has delivery times of over a year. It seems that Maserati knows its customers. And for the milliseconds counters, faster MC20‘s are in the pipe.

 

Maybe, maybe not. We'll see. I'm in the camp that cares about design more than performance, and this car is plenty fast enough, but I think I'm in the minority. McLaren and Ferrari wouldn't waste their performance runway if they could get away with 200K cars with this performance.

Maybe MC20 has no competitors and Maserati buyers will eat it up like an i8 or something, but I think the price is too high for that crowd. MSRP at $200K before options. Will end up only a smidgen away from a user 720S...

IMO this thing needed a $150K price tag, similar to the R8 or high-end 911.

 

I recall the prechamber combustion system was used in the early 1900's by Mietz and Weiss I think. Any good patent search would have found this unless it wasn't patented, or abandoned. Either way, it's prior art.

 

100k is a smidgen?? Lol. 200k before options puts it much closer to the sport series than the super series in price.

 

Typo. Used 720s. MC20 is $200K MSRP, so you figure probably 20-30K in options.