Car surfers moving on to the next thing?

 

blush might be off this rose

 

2 year old car with 4000 miles, undesirable seats for the spec, no exterior carbon still sells for above msrp . Not sure Im understanding the concern.

 

Will now open a thread about every price development of the GOAT of the GOAT?

This car is still young, of course, there will be different price fluctuations. But that this car will become an absolute collector's item in the medium term is out of the question for me.

 

Yeah, the few I've been following are now down 30% from their original asking price, still dropping and still not selling.

 

Citing 1 example doesn't set the precedent for all of them. I've never seen that color on any McLaren, now I know why, it doesn't look good. It's definitely not a desirable spec, and still over sticker.


Asking price is just that. Remember when a certain dealer was asking $749k for them and not selling them? Without saying too much, dealers list cars at high asking prices for various reasons. Maybe they paid too much and have a set margin they price at. Maybe they got it for a personal collection but paid for by the business so they have to list it for sale so it's not considered a company asset. Maybe they're floor planning the car for liquidity and if they sell the car they'll have to pay out on it and don't have the money to do that. Maybe they're laundering money and have to justify a value on the second set of books. In all of those cases they aren't trying to sell the car.

SELLING price, across a reasonable sample group, is how market value is determined. You might be surprised to see what many cars are actually selling for vs asking right now. We're starting to get into buying season, the market may change.

 

I’m confident one day the 765 will bring far over MSRP. I really am not selling mine, so this is irrelevant for me. But the market doesn’t always realize the specialness of a thing right away. Happens often. It will have its day.

 

Dont really care to track prices. I’ve woken up thinking that I need to add a coupe to my spider numerous times. It truly is the GOAT as stated sabove!

 

Bro, I have never driven anything that made me feel as remotely alive. I'm a pretty stoic person, perhaps it's the years of owning businesses and controlling emotions that's leveled me out. As you know, go through a few sales processes and you'll learn emotions aren't your friend. But when I drive my 765 I feel it. It's a hell of a car/drug.

 

... you should try riding a 1000cc sports Motorcycle ..... a car is quite boring, by comparison.

 

Looks good to me... I wouldnt choose that color personally. But its still appealing

 

That car didn’t have many options. Roof scoop, engine window, and base MSO paint. Most others were standard. The window could have been that large. Pretty sure this was still Over window.

 

I know a spider that just went for +$200k MSRP just two weeks ago. One sale does not make the market but everything is moving down right now so the price on this coupe doesn’t surprise me for the mileage and spec.

 

Was that a car that was formerly marketed online? I have been following the spiders somewhat closely and the only one that I saw go offline at that kind of premium over MSRP was a perfect spec delivery mile Papaya Spark a couple months ago. I tried to work something out on that car, but they were emphatic at $200 over. To be clear, I am not disputing your assertion, just wondering if I somehow missed a car.

 

There’s a huge variance in specs. some of these cars are really beautifully done, and they’re commanding a considerable premium over the raw option price.

 

I'd take one in ANY color.

 

Is it certified? Didn’t check the listing.

 

other then roof scoop thats a very basic spec

 

Never sat in one with a scoop, but from pics, looks like you are losing some visibility out the rear window - any truth to that ? Compromise if so.

 

You lose a ton of visibility.

 

Pffttt. All lame. You guys get back to me when you decide on playing Russian roulette with a revolver loaded with 5 shots, while ejecting out of a Mach 10 plane, and where youre holding on to a dead man switch remote to your unsuspecting families at home, where if detonated, a relay triggers an explosion on a fault line, that will lead to a fissure that will reach yellowstone and trigger the super volcano, that will tilt the icecaps to shift immediately at the same time the tectonic plates are splitting into Africa's new ocean, ripping the planet apart. And that’s just what I do to kill time on an average Wed after my dental cleaning ! On Friday nights we pull out dueling supercolliders!/endTopper

Todays actual excitement, I might get a tasty Vanilla cone from the local Sonic after marveling how much the cows manage to shit on the road and how that oddly saves me money on taxes. (I know, adrenaline junkie)

 

BAT is one medium to sell. I know of a 765 spider with a $450k spec that is being sold for $650k as we speak.

Go walk a tight rope over the Grand Canyon with no safety harness, go solo free climb a mountain with no rope. Go shark diving with no cage...blah blah...In the meantime I’ll just have to live with driving my boring 765LT...

I will say...those Isle of Man folks are missing a few screws...just nuts what they do!

edit: almost forgot...to you bike guys...go run a few laps of super cross or MotoX. The problem is 99% of riders aren’t good enough to clear the jumps!! Makes street racing feel positively pedestrian and much more physically demanding as well.

 

I will say...those Isle of Man folks are missing a few screws...just nuts what they do!

Absofuckinglutely.

 

Roof scoop looks poorly integrated to me and aesthetically isn’t pleasing. It was perfect on the P1, 675 and obviously F1 the true GOAT.

 

It doesn't feed the engine, it goes to a couple small nipples in the engine bay.

 

Comparing a car to a motorcycle is beyond absurd. Car forums are about CARS. I personally have no interest in motorcycles but I love cars.

 

You guys want adrenaline? Go to your spouse. Hug her from behind and whisper ever so softly in her ear- you look fat in those pants.
If that doesn’t give you enough of a rush trying to avoid having your life end in front of you, nothing will.

Till then- how about we just stick to discussing cars.

 

Other than the F1 has there been a McLaren that has appreciated over the long term?

 

What's your idea of long term? 10 years? 15 years? 20 years? McLaren Automotive hasn't even been producing cars for 15 years. Most long term appreciating cars fall for 10-15 years and won't start to appreciate till 15+ years. Limited production cars tend to be the exception, I don't mean like every "limited edition" Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, I mean the cars difficult to get in the first place.

 

It almost always comes down to spec. With the 765LT spiders, most of them are some incredible MSO creations and I’m sure none of them will sell below sticker.

Constantly amazed by some of the specs that are still dropping. Take a look at Insta, some are really well done.
The coupe is equally incredible, but MSO went out of their way to ensure that the spiders were specced higher and in many cases really special.

 

For me, if I had the money, I would still chose a coupe over a spider for the 765. Roof scoop, Senna seats, CF interior and exterior options, and Tokyo Cyan or Papaya Spark paint.

 

Basically it boils down to this. Everyone gets thrills from different things, and no one should take away or discredit anyone else’s enjoyment. A 2,000 mile trip in a McLaren for me would be a dream come true. For others it is a wingsuit through mountains. For others it is something else.

All I’m saying is don’t put someone else down because something is “old hat” to you or you personally find something else more enjoyable.

 

If thrill is your thing, I would see regularly a high speed chase in the arkansas police channel. I can imagine how nervous are the drivers being pursued!