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I'm still finalizing it. Part of it will depend greatly on what they can do for MSO. I may become the record holder for the worlds most boring MSO interior order EVER.

I want 3 things from the MSO build. Basically start with the TechLux interior in boring as F black. But I want to get rid of the little alcantara stripe up the power electric seat so it's all leather. Second, instead of the bezel surround on the infotainment screen being the titanium, I want it it to be the pitch black plastic, so it looks more invisible. And lastly, if possible, I want to see if I can get the old P11 Ultra Comfort seats put instead of the standard 720/750 comfort seats.

I'm between 3 colors, but 80% chance I'm going to just get Onyx black because I cannot help myself with black cars. I know they are boring as F but I just end up loving them jet black. But Volcano yellow is the other option, that I have no problem getting with the body paint louvers. And the one that I'm shocked is in contention is Ludus blue, but that would be with carbon fiber lovers, which I'm surprised Im liking.

Oh, I'm getting every electronic gadget possible, the glass roof, and no aesthetic carbon (except the tub sill since I know people will put their feet on it and get the leather dirty otherwise).
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All those blues look amazing with bare carbon. Ludus, Fistral, Paris, Belize, etc.
 
No louvres. I think they spoil the lines and look a bit "try hard". Given both size and position, I can't believe they make any material difference to high speed aero stability.

Senna brakes only if track is your main use case, and your pockets commensurately deep.
 
The louvre in CF is an mso thing. Not on the regular menu. Otherwise it’s body color and I’m just 50/50 on it.

Brakes, I think for a daily driver the lux package/windshield maybe higher priority.

what I don’t like about the lux package is I miss the CF paddle and steering wheel
 
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The louvre in CF is an mso thing. Not on the regular menu. Otherwise it’s body color and I’m just 50/50 on it.

Brakes, I think for a daily driver the lux package/windshield maybe higher priority.

what I don’t like about the lux package is I miss the CF paddle and steering wheel
I could swear there was some upgrade to get CF on the lux? Yes, there is. You go to "Next" and its on the steering wheel type:

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Im getting the comfort windshield upgrade for sure. Also, will get either techLux or the MSO interior upgrade depending on what MSO can do.
 
I could swear there was some upgrade to get CF on the lux? Yes, there is. You go to "Next" and its on the steering wheel type:

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Im getting the comfort windshield upgrade for sure. Also, will get either techLux or the MSO interior upgrade depending on what MSO can do.
Must have missed it on the check list when I did my spec. There was no website when I did mine. Prob worth it over the titanium. Has no function but for some reason psychologically i have been "program" to think CF weave it cool LOL
 
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Must have missed it on the check list when I did my spec. There was no website when I did mine. Prob worth it over the titanium. Has no function but for some reason psychologically i have been "program" to think CF weave it cool LOL
Yea, I applaud the CF lovers. But I generally dislike aesthetic CF. I love it for function. In the interior I prefer metal.

However.

I felt the titanium extended paddles, and they were so light and thin as to feel kind of, this is not the right word but "chinzy"...that is not the right word for it though, they do not feel cheap, and they do not flex. They are clearly high quality. I get that it's a feature of titanium to be light, and they dont give or flex, but they somehow feel "insubstantial" which is also not the right word. I guess it somehow feels unsatisfyingly light?

The metal on the steering wheel feels very nice and substantial. I guess for my sense of aesthetics i would have preferred an ingot of aluminum for the paddles, and frankly for the track mode/power train selectors.

In that way, the carbon paddles, although not my cup of tea aesthetically, did feel more "substantial" than the titanium extended paddles.

Just to note, the titanium paddles did not feel bad, and I suspect I'll get very used to them. But they were light to the point of feeling like a vapor fly kind of pull. Which may actually be a good thing. Time will tell. I guess I'm going with the old

Michael Farca on X: @nsonpal @medelita It's better to look good than to feel  good ~ Fernando Lamas http://t.co/8XPOPZ9kVl / X
 
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Ok, somewhat of a crazy question and sanity check. What do you guys think about an all carbon body finish rather than paint?

1) If one were to get a full carbon body, carbon doesnt really ding, does it? So if a grocery cart hit the door, on a normal door it might ding, but with a full carbon body, it wouldnt, right?

2) If you put PPF on a carbon body and it sits for too long, and you peel it off, the most it would do is tear off some clear coat? There is no paint it would pull up, right? And then I assume, it wouldnt be too big a deal to fix that part of the car by just reapplying some clear coat? It would be way easier than matching some newer paint to somewhat older sitting paint?

I guess this is my weird way of trying to suggest that maybe the full carbon finish is more “practical” :D
 
Ok, somewhat of a crazy question and sanity check. What do you guys think about an all carbon body finish rather than paint?

1) If one were to get a full carbon body, carbon doesnt really ding, does it? So if a grocery cart hit the door, on a normal door it might ding, but with a full carbon body, it wouldnt, right?

2) If you put PPF on a carbon body and it sits for too long, and you peel it off, the most it would do is tear off some clear coat? There is no paint it would pull up, right? And then I assume, it wouldnt be too big a deal to fix that part of the car by just reapplying some clear coat? It would be way easier than matching some newer paint to somewhat older sitting paint?

I guess this is my weird way of trying to suggest that maybe the full carbon finish is more “practical” :D
Lol. I'm not sure about the practically, but I can tell you that carbon with PPF and then ceramic looks pretty spectacular. If it were me, I'd do blue carbon.
 
Ok, somewhat of a crazy question and sanity check. What do you guys think about an all carbon body finish rather than paint?

1) If one were to get a full carbon body, carbon doesnt really ding, does it? So if a grocery cart hit the door, on a normal door it might ding, but with a full carbon body, it wouldnt, right?

2) If you put PPF on a carbon body and it sits for too long, and you peel it off, the most it would do is tear off some clear coat? There is no paint it would pull up, right? And then I assume, it wouldnt be too big a deal to fix that part of the car by just reapplying some clear coat? It would be way easier than matching some newer paint to somewhat older sitting paint?

I guess this is my weird way of trying to suggest that maybe the full carbon finish is more “practical” :D

It won't ding. It will just chip/break.

Quality PPF shouldn't peel paint. Although PPF seems to be on everything now, I don't think there's a lot of information available to make an accurate assessment to see it can/could be removed 10-15 years down the road on paint w/o issue. Hypothetically if it did peel, (in this particular case) just the clear would come off. So technically you could just reclear it w/o having any matching issues.

I can't afford it, but an all carbon body car is not something I'd even drive...
 
Ok, somewhat of a crazy question and sanity check. What do you guys think about an all carbon body finish rather than paint?

1) If one were to get a full carbon body, carbon doesnt really ding, does it? So if a grocery cart hit the door, on a normal door it might ding, but with a full carbon body, it wouldnt, right?

2) If you put PPF on a carbon body and it sits for too long, and you peel it off, the most it would do is tear off some clear coat? There is no paint it would pull up, right? And then I assume, it wouldnt be too big a deal to fix that part of the car by just reapplying some clear coat? It would be way easier than matching some newer paint to somewhat older sitting paint?

I guess this is my weird way of trying to suggest that maybe the full carbon finish is more “practical” :D
No.

McLaren had the best color palette of all the supercar manufacturers, don't waste it by doing boring all carbon.
 
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It won't ding. It will just chip/break.

Quality PPF shouldn't peel paint. Although PPF seems to be on everything now, I don't think there's a lot of information available to make an accurate assessment to see it can/could be removed 10-15 years down the road on paint w/o issue. Hypothetically if it did peel, (in this particular case) just the clear would come off. So technically you could just reclear it w/o having any matching issues.

I can't afford it, but an all carbon body car is not something I'd even drive...
Would it chip the carbon fiber, or just the clear coat/ppf? I could be wrong, but my sense of it is you might have to buff out some clear coat scratch, but the car wouldn’t be dinged and likely wouldn’t be chipped at the carbon level (but maybe would at the clear coat level, which would be relatively easier to repair)? But I could easily be wrong and could also see a world where carbon fiber bits might crack out.

As for PPF, we have another thread where old PPF is ripping paint off as well as clear coat. So my guess is even though PPF is warranties for 10 years, you probably want to replace it every 5-7 years.

Why wouldn't you drive an all carbon fiber body? It seems like it might be more resilient?
 
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