[EMF Audio (McMedics)]

I drove 200 miles each way to COTA in a Senna seat with track pads in an LT last week, with 180 track miles in-between....

Senna seats aren't P1 seats.

it’s hard to compare comfort. Seats/ tire type and wear/transmission and power delivery all change this

I feel the 750 is smoother and it also alway starts on comfort comfort.

Bumps on road wise. I feel the 750 absorbs them better. But who knows. New car vs 4 yr old car plus bad memmory

That's a good point, some people never hit active which on a 720 is sport by default.

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

I drove 200 miles each way to COTA in a Senna seat with track pads in an LT last week, with 180 track miles in-between....

I need to try you Senna setup. The new comfort seats are poopy. I cannot fathom why McLaren replaced the OG awesome comfort seats for what they offer now.

 

[12c720]

there are currently 22 NEW (meaning never titled) 750s for sale on Cars.Com. Dealer orders or unsold customer spec doesn't matter and yes, the 750 will depreciate over time like any other production car.

There could be more than 22 750s available statewide but the ones on cars.com don't exist. At least the majority of them. Dealers do this to have people call on them but they show customer cars as inventory, they all do it. It was a big thing when the c8s and c8 z06s were over sticker and now the new emira too. Mclaren don't let dealers advertise new inventory online anyways, if they did it wouldn't be cars.com, it's just an annoying sales tactic.

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

There could be more than 22 750s available statewide but the ones on cars.com don't exist. At least the majority of them. Dealers do this to have people call on them but they show customer cars as inventory, they all do it. It was a big thing when the c8s and c8 z06s were over sticker and now the new emira too. Mclaren don't let dealers advertise new inventory online anyways, if they did it wouldn't be cars.com, it's just an annoying sales tactic.

I agree with that, but we have independently verified at least several at some of the dealers being made available. Who knows what percent of those cars.com offerings are real. 90% 50% 10%? But some are.

Also with tall the talk of depreciation, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. A far greater portion of these cars have been allocated, and spec'd, by actual buyers. But not all. Again, what percent, who knows. Before perhaps it was 10% owner spec'd and 90% dealer spec'd for the 720, and for the 750 maybe its 50/50, or 90/10 the other way? That should affect depreciation positively, but unless the 750 actually turns out to be the last ICE McLaren and if they truly stop in 2 years, I'm not sure the delta will be that great.

 

[ek993]

I bought a new 570S in 2019, and traded it for a 600LT Spider. I have been offered twice this year a new 750S Spider, the last time was very recently.

 

[alexceres]

Why is the ride harsher?

it has an entirely new generation of the suspension, and more components from the 765. I wouldn’t describe it as harsh, but it is a bit stiffer. It’s in between a 720 and 765. The 720 comfort is amazing on bad roads. It glides. The 750 provides more feedback on the road surface, and feels better than the 720 at higher speeds. The suspension is definitely better, but better isn‘t always better.

 

[drhex]

Me and my wife find the P1 seats really comfy, my wife has a bad back and sat in them over British roads as well as the Autobahn for 1000s of k without complaint and real breaks. They have less cushioning of course so that may contribute to my feeling of a harsher ride. Flip side road holding and stance are at least one level up on 720, especially at speed.
I like it better than the 720. @ZombiePhysicist you really need to drive one with P1 seats to form an opinion.

 

[pfbz]

I love my P1 seats.... IMHO they absolutely make the car. (I have a 720S) A bit more contortion to get in and out, but I find them quite comfy once in there. When I borrowed a 720S with comfort seats, I felt like I was sliding all over once in the twisties.

I haven't spent more than a couple of minutes in the Senna seats, but imagine they are very much like Tillet seats (are they made by tillet?) Sort of comfy if they fit you perfectly, otherwise not so much.

 

[ptown12C]

Thanks for the feedback. Not worried about the depreciation. I have owned many exotics and buy them to drive them. If you buy a car "right" then depreciation is just the price of having fun.
If you overpay then it is a different story. For the record there were 2 coupes and 2 spiders unaccounted for in the Newport Beach Mclaren showroom that I sat in. I just didn't like the colors.
I have also been called twice in the last month by other Northern California dealers with unclaimed cars.

I appreciate everyone's input. I think I will drive my 720 for another year and re-evaluate. I really like the color and options on it.

 

[mdg]

1st Ptown12C, we have a home in Ptown Cape Cod. Probably your Ptown means something different, but thought it was worth noting. I went from a (spiders) 720, 765 to a 750. Yes, a 720 from a 600 was a great experience to a more refined supercar. Loved it as I like to buy new year to year. 765 was more raw, exotic and performance was unbelievable. I missed the comfort detail and loved the performance and moved to the 750. Now 720 to 750 all the changes on the 750 makes it a cross between both. I prefer to have the latest, more tech, performance, less the quirks of the 720/765 and option packages (MSO). I did very well trading the 765 getting way more than I paid which made the transition better. Love the 750 as I only have had it for a few months. Performance, options, upgrades etc...on the 750 with money not being a big factor, no brainer!

 

[unmac]

The two local dealers in my area (Walnut Creek /San Francisco), have delivered about 35 x 750s so far .

you should ask the sales people what the profile of the buyers are /were (ie ; new to the brand , if they traded in an existing mclaren and which one , how many they own (ed), if they are between supercars then what did they have in the past .

you’ll determine that the people who are verbose on car forums are anything but the typical owner .

 

[exotic599]

1st Ptown12C, we have a home in Ptown Cape Cod. Probably your Ptown means something different, but thought it was worth noting. I went from a (spiders) 720, 765 to a 750. Yes, a 720 from a 600 was a great experience to a more refined supercar. Loved it as I like to buy new year to year. 765 was more raw, exotic and performance was unbelievable. I missed the comfort detail and loved the performance and moved to the 750. Now 720 to 750 all the changes on the 750 makes it a cross between both. I prefer to have the latest, more tech, performance, less the quirks of the 720/765 and option packages (MSO). I did very well trading the 765 getting way more than I paid which made the transition better. Love the 750 as I only have had it for a few months. Performance, options, upgrades etc...on the 750 with money not being a big factor, no brainer!

where do you drive that car in Ptown? Not in town?

 

[ptown12C]

my Ptown is Pleasanton, California. The dealer in Walnut Creek has two 750 Spiders he is shopping around. Sent me several txts. I drove my 720 this weekend reflecting and still love it so
I will be waiting on making any changes. I tend to keep my cars 4 years before changing. I am on year 3.

On a cool note, the Walnut Creek dealer has installed 2 racing simulators in the lobby for customers to drive. I will be checking that out.

Love the dialog on this subject though. Thanks for all the input.

 

[Cstep]

Agreed. It should maintain value better and if it really is the last non-hybrid that will help. The only thing I see hurting it will be how long the prodcution run will be. If it sticks close to the 2 years Mclaren predicted the values will stay high. If the replacement is delayed and the production runs 3 or even 4 years there will be too many made and that will hurt values.

With all that being said, who cares. Every car depreciates and no one should be buying a depreciating assets in hope of making money. Go in with the expectation of losing 20-30% and enjoy the car. That’s they way I’ve always looked at every purchase.

Very well written and I agree. Except, with “Every car depreciates.” Percentage wise is true.