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So who is going to be doing this so that we can apply that to other Macs, like the 650, 570 etc?

Lets be honest, however that launch works is BOMB, we need the recipe for other models now......

Mengineering has already done the rolling burnout and adjustable launch mode for the 720s . They displayed this feature at Tx2k last week
 
Speaking of proving parts, it looks like you have some Weistec goodies. I know they make good stuff based on the sls benz blower I've seen of theirs. Do you have or have you seen anyone's actual dyno numbers/time slips with their 720s turbo upgrade? I've looked around, but haven't ever seen someone with the Weistec turbos post their dyno, timeslip or draggy times or even how much peak boost they are capable over the oem snails. I'm sure it's good stuff, but how good is what I've been wondering...
I have their VTA adapters and I bought their Meth kit which to be honest ... the charge pipes fit very poorly and I had unobtainium make new ones out of titanium with meth bungs. Posted those on my Instagram.

As for their turbos it's only the impeller they do and not the exhaust side . Mengineering has surpassed in stock turbos anything those ones from weitec would do . You would need both sides done like puretuebos does to get any Gaines. My stock turbos are making 1000whp now . And the best dyno I have seen from weistec was 980 or so I believe with the turbo upgrades .

No one has done any track or dragy numbers tho in weitec stuff .

Hope that helps.
 
I have their VTA adapters and I bought their Meth kit which to be honest ... the charge pipes fit very poorly and I had unobtainium make new ones out of titanium with meth bungs. Posted those on my Instagram.

As for their turbos it's only the impeller they do and not the exhaust side . Mengineering has surpassed in stock turbos anything those ones from weitec would do . You would need both sides done like puretuebos does to get any Gaines. My stock turbos are making 1000whp now . And the best dyno I have seen from weistec was 980 or so I believe with the turbo upgrades .

No one has done any track or dragy numbers tho in weitec stuff .

Hope that helps.
Awesome info. I should have figured that if the Weistec compressor mod was breaking records, I would have heard about it already, but having heard nothing at all, and then seeing your car with some Weistec gear installed made me curious again.
 
Awesome info. I should have figured that if the Weistec compressor mod was breaking records, I would have heard about it already, but having heard nothing at all, and then seeing your car with some Weistec gear installed made me curious again.
Yea no Mengineering (Jon) said that really the restriction now is on the exhaust side. Pure turbos seem to be putting out good power with injectors and their tune tho .
 
Yea no Mengineering (Jon) said that really the restriction now is on the exhaust side. Pure turbos seem to be putting out good power with injectors and their tune tho .
Right. I had seen the glacier white pure turbo 720s break into the 8s first a few years ago so I knew the Pure turbos must have been adding a bit of power into the equation. I imagine that with the additional experience gained on the 720s platform over time that those times on the Pure Turbo cars would improve further, but when the stock turbo cars broke through the 9 second barrier too and recaptured the records for fastest ET, no other pure turbo cars came along and took it back to my knowledge so it seemed less necessary. That said, I'm sure the Pure cars are making great power and on the right day could reclaim the record.
 
Right. I had seen the glacier white pure turbo 720s break into the 8s first a few years ago so I knew the Pure turbos must have been adding a bit of power into the equation. I imagine that with the additional experience gained on the 720s platform over time that those times on the Pure Turbo cars would improve further, but when the stock turbo cars broke through the 9 second barrier too and recaptured the records for fastest ET, no other pure turbo cars came along and took it back to my knowledge so it seemed less necessary. That said, I'm sure the Pure cars are making great power and on the right day could reclaim the record.
What happend was the cars were running out of fuel with the pure turbo upgrades. Mengineering solved that with injectors and now juat recently pure turbo cars are making 1100+ whp . That white one that got the first 8second pass was only 980whp. So we should see some crazy times from cars with pure turbos soon enough.

I went with nitrous over the turbo upgrade and I love it . I don't think even a pure turbo upgraded car will touch my times for a while... but never know
 
What happend was the cars were running out of fuel with the pure turbo upgrades. Mengineering solved that with injectors and now juat recently pure turbo cars are making 1100+ whp . That white one that got the first 8second pass was only 980whp. So we should see some crazy times from cars with pure turbos soon enough.

I went with nitrous over the turbo upgrade and I love it . I don't think even a pure turbo upgraded car will touch my times for a while... but never know
Hell Yeah! Always been a big fan of Nitrous, but people are either super hush hush about having it or it's just not used as much anymore. To me it's the perfect mod to take a mildly modified car to the next level without all the extensive tradeoffs most other mods have. Glad to see a McLaren running it! What setup? Wet/Dry/Direct Port? Also, happy to hear that the injectors is what resolved the issue with the fuel for the turbo upgrade cars. That means we're going to keep seeing better and better numbers on the 720s. It will be interesting to see what the revised dual fuel pump system in the 765LT can do with the tune, downpipes, meth kit, inlets, injectors, and the Pure Turbos. It stands to reason that it would be capable of running deeper into the 8s with that setup. All that together would run less coin than the roof scoop option alone and streetability wouldn't really take much of a hit at all. Then of course there is always nitrous, but with all that big power, to me it seems like the next hurdle to overcome would become the factory clutches. That is a total assumption by me about the strength of the clutches, but with the setup above, to me 1400-1500 wheel honestly doesn't seem out of reach. Now, I'd be highly impressed by any oem dct clutches sustaining optimal performance at that type of power level. Once figured out however.... Does high 7 sec 1/4s and gear limited top speed 1/2 mile runs sound impossible to you for this full carbon tub platform? As ludicrous as that is, a 7.9 1/4 mile would "only" be shaving 1.4 seconds off of the bone stock LT 1/4 mile time from factory. That's a BIG only, but it may not be out of the realm of possibility. These cars have definitely earned their ufo reputation and shocked us all before. Either way, it sounds like 8.5 1/4 miles are coming in the very near future.
 
Hell Yeah! Always been a big fan of Nitrous, but people are either super hush hush about having it or it's just not used as much anymore. To me it's the perfect mod to take a mildly modified car to the next level without all the extensive tradeoffs most other mods have. Glad to see a McLaren running it! What setup? Wet/Dry/Direct Port? Also, happy to hear that the injectors is what resolved the issue with the fuel for the turbo upgrade cars. That means we're going to keep seeing better and better numbers on the 720s. It will be interesting to see what the revised dual fuel pump system in the 765LT can do with the tune, downpipes, meth kit, inlets, injectors, and the Pure Turbos. It stands to reason that it would be capable of running deeper into the 8s with that setup. All that together would run less coin than the roof scoop option alone and streetability wouldn't really take much of a hit at all. Then of course there is always nitrous, but with all that big power, to me it seems like the next hurdle to overcome would become the factory clutches. That is a total assumption by me about the strength of the clutches, but with the setup above, to me 1400-1500 wheel honestly doesn't seem out of reach. Now, I'd be highly impressed by any oem dct clutches sustaining optimal performance at that type of power level. Once figured out however.... Does high 7 sec 1/4s and gear limited top speed 1/2 mile runs sound impossible to you for this full carbon tub platform? As ludicrous as that is, a 7.9 1/4 mile would "only" be shaving 1.4 seconds off of the bone stock LT 1/4 mile time from factory. That's a BIG only, but it may not be out of the realm of possibility. These cars have definitely earned their ufo reputation and shocked us all before. Either way, it sounds like 8.5 1/4 miles are coming in the very near future.
I have a very elaborate wet system by Nitrosu outlet with an lcd screen in the car for a progressive controller that has infinite settings on how you want to run the nitrous . Mine doesn't come on till 6k rpm and if it's from a dead stop then not till 3rd gear. Love it

As for the 765lt and 720s going faster . It's going to take alot as many people have already started having clutch issues . Ekanoo included . They start slipping bad at these power levels, I have been lucky somehow and mine have stayed strong 💪 . My car has hit 200mph in the half mile already (199.9 🤦‍♂️😂) multiple times and 164 in the 1/4 .

To get a 7second pass I think there will need to be quite a few more upgrades like the Dodson clutch packs , Mengineering Differential , axels and then it's juat a matter of it the motor will hold together on a stock block. There are a few people working on a drop in piston/rod soultion that could bring these cars to the next level tho for sure and we could see some crazy times . But basic bolt ons and a tune will never achieve 7seconds IMO
 
I have a very elaborate wet system by Nitrosu outlet with an lcd screen in the car for a progressive controller that has infinite settings on how you want to run the nitrous . Mine doesn't come on till 6k rpm and if it's from a dead stop then not till 3rd gear. Love it

As for the 765lt and 720s going faster . It's going to take alot as many people have already started having clutch issues . Ekanoo included . They start slipping bad at these power levels, I have been lucky somehow and mine have stayed strong 💪 . My car has hit 200mph in the half mile already (199.9 🤦‍♂️😂) multiple times and 164 in the 1/4 .

To get a 7second pass I think there will need to be quite a few more upgrades like the Dodson clutch packs , Mengineering Differential , axels and then it's juat a matter of it the motor will hold together on a stock block. There are a few people working on a drop in piston/rod soultion that could bring these cars to the next level tho for sure and we could see some crazy times . But basic bolt ons and a tune will never achieve 7seconds IMO
I figured it was a wet. That makes the most sense. Sick setup! The LCD coupled with the progressive controller makes it so much better that the old time wot switches. To me, your 1/2 mile time and trap speed prove that nitrous is the way to go. The way you introduce it with a window switch at 6k rpm in 3rd is genius. With the tune, that's probably when the stock turbos start nearing their limits so progressively adding in the spray at that point is just perfect. It not only lowers your chances of excessive wheelspin in 1st and 2nd but is doesn't kill the clutch either as it eases in when you're already in gear. Just ideal. Power right where you want it without excessive clutch wear!

Now that there are parts getting developed that address the bottlenecks (boost levels, fuel, clutches, launch rpm, etc) and there is a tuner out there that is capable of making it all work together, the 720s is going to be WAY closer to 7s than anyone originally expected. Totally agree on the basic bolt ons never going 7s, but a short list of supporting mods may actually get there, which is kind of shocking to realize. I just think about the amount of invasive mods required on anything else to come even close.
 
Just started tooling around with ‘Rolling Burnout Mode’ on my 765LT and damn does that feature put a smile on my face.


Absolutely should help when attempting 1/4 mile times.
 
Hi guys,

Im surprised that this hasnt already been mentioned, but there are some changes to the LC that can be made in the engine ecu, but this is mainly launch RPM and torque applied to the clutch when the brake is released...

No doubt there will also be some TCU changes as well, but for what its worth, you can really increase the launch torque on the earlier 12c and 650 models, its important to remember that a certain amount of slip is a good thing, otherwise the gearbox is taking a lot of torque, thats the while reason why some slip is good as well.

Thanks.
 
Hi guys,

Im surprised that this hasnt already been mentioned, but there are some changes to the LC that can be made in the engine ecu, but this is mainly launch RPM and torque applied to the clutch when the brake is released...

No doubt there will also be some TCU changes as well, but for what its worth, you can really increase the launch torque on the earlier 12c and 650 models, its important to remember that a certain amount of slip is a good thing, otherwise the gearbox is taking a lot of torque, thats the while reason why some slip is good as well.

Thanks.

What are talking about ? Hasn't been mentioned ? Lol

Not to be rude but did you read the thread at all . That's what this thread is about , Mengineering has adjustable Launch Control and rolling burnout mode for years now .

I could set what ever rpm I wanted my launch control to be used at
 
Wheres it been mentioned? Because the OP mentioned 765LT LC to other models. I wasnt talking about anything else…

FYI, you wont be able to get true 765LT launch control on any other mclaren, probably ever. Theres too many maps and parameters to get heads to sort it.

Love it when people comment who havent a clue how things like this even work. Yes of course m engineering have, but where is it mentioned in this thread?

Smart ass, im off to tune a senna. Peace
 
Wheres it been mentioned? Because the OP mentioned 765LT LC to other models. I wasnt talking about anything else…

FYI, you wont be able to get true 765LT launch control on any other mclaren, probably ever. Theres too many maps and parameters to get heads to sort it.

Love it when people comment who havent a clue how things like this even work. Yes of course m engineering have, but where is it mentioned in this thread?

Smart ass, im off to tune a senna. Peace
Shut the f*ck up , go look at post 22 and above its being talked about. Saying I don't know what I'm talking about is laughable and by not reading the thread you just made yourself look like an idiot calling me out when it's just a few posts above.

Have fun with your senna tune , love you throwing that in 😂😂

Also side note , you are wrong saying you won't get a true 765lt launch because of the ecu parameters are to many .... it's cause of one reason only and that's hardware . The transmission/gearing is different and that's the only reason it won't be identical
 
Another shit head to add to the forum list, I thought you were respectable, seems not. Post 22 "Mengineering has already done the rolling burnout and adjustable launch mode for the 720s . They displayed this feature at Tx2k last week"

Really informative that lol, thats why I posted what I did as it doesnt mention any of the other models does it?!?

No one here will be able to reverse engineer the TCU fully without documentation, which doesn't exist out in the open, but I really hope someone spends the time to offer 675,570 shifting to the 650 and 12c, because that is REALLY needed, having been involved in this with other cars and even programming it, its really not easy to do, you have parameters such as:

1. Shift pressure
2. Torque maps/engine and gearbox
3. Clutch parameters and a whole load of other things.

No, you don't know technically how this works. if so, post up the torque maps for LC which is the most basic thing ever to the initiated.... I can call you out because you dont have a clue at a technical level. Just Leymans terms, I know this for a fact as there are only a few who know.

Man the level of rudeness on the forum us really unpleasant.. I came onto this forum and noticed there was a lack of info available there was literally only one company who was offering any kind of information and they know who they are.

Good luck to you.
 
Another shit head to add to the forum list, I thought you were respectable, seems not. Post 22 "Mengineering has already done the rolling burnout and adjustable launch mode for the 720s . They displayed this feature at Tx2k last week"

Really informative that lol, thats why I posted what I did as it doesnt mention any of the other models does it?!?

No one here will be able to reverse engineer the TCU fully without documentation, which doesn't exist out in the open, but I really hope someone spends the time to offer 675,570 shifting to the 650 and 12c, because that is REALLY needed, having been involved in this with other cars and even programming it, its really not easy to do, you have parameters such as:

1. Shift pressure
2. Torque maps/engine and gearbox
3. Clutch parameters and a whole load of other things.

No, you don't know technically how this works. if so, post up the torque maps for LC which is the most basic thing ever to the initiated.... I can call you out because you dont have a clue at a technical level. Just Leymans terms, I know this for a fact as there are only a few who know.

Man the level of rudeness on the forum us really unpleasant.. I came onto this forum and noticed there was a lack of info available there was literally only one company who was offering any kind of information and they know who they are.

Good luck to you.

You thought I was respectable.... OK let's look at how this started ...

I posted , respectfully and said .. " Not trying to be rude but ... "

And then you respond like a 12year old with nothing but disrespect by saying

"

Love it when people comment who havent a clue how things like this even work. Yes of course m engineering have, but where is it mentioned in this thread?

Smart ass, im off to tune a senna. Peace
"

Now let's ask ppl here who is the disrespectful troll on the forum . I have provided an insnae amount of help and information on this forum for about 5 years now and you instantly call me names and say I know nothing after I was very nice and just said hey not to be rude but it has been posted before .

If I was a new potential customer reading how you carry yourself I would run so far away from you and your business .

So once again fu*k off . Disrespect gets disrespect. YOU started that part not me
 
Check my posts and see the responses from people u'll see what i mean as you are a part of it, no time for this. laters gaslighter.
 
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