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Who is McLaren's new "headline" tech signing?

  • Ross Brawn

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  • Geoff Willis

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  • Peter Prodromou

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  • Rob Marshall

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I've put some who I think would be useful to McLaren, and headline grabbing. I'm guessing they will go with someone on the aero front, and potentially a poach from the dominant Red Bull tech team (so Peter Prodromou - who was previously at McLaren, and Newey got him to come with), or Rob Marshall (Chief Designer at Red Bull). Those guys must be a little frustrated at Red Bull, knowing that Newey takes all the credit, and there really is no where for them to go within Red Bull until Newey retires/defects - which I don't see happening soon, with Newey being in such a really good place. Red Bull treat him really well, he gets more stardom than the team principal or Vettel in some cases.. they've given him the title Chief Technical Officer, let him drive F1 cars etc. and he does not sit under the tp, Christian, as is usually the case with technical directors, as can be seen in the Red Bull org chart on their website - so I'm guessing this gets to those under Newey - just how much credit he gets (regardless of whether it is warranted). Plus we've had no major departures from Red Bull that I'm aware which is crazy considering they've had such a dominant car.

Otherwise, perhaps Pat Fry will return to the country of his birth after realising the grass isn't always greener on the otherside. I know traditionally McLaren isn't a place where people come back to, but Whitmarsh's management style may have changed this. Pat Fry can't be overly happy about James Allison joining?

The other big possibility I see could be Ross Brawn. It does seem like he was ousted and I think he could be a good fit at McLaren. Perhaps a long-term bet to take over from Martin?

And still, Mercedes perhaps are a little top heavy with the joining of Lowe - which is an automatic demotion for the following listed: Bob Bell, Geoff Willis and Aldo Costa are possibilities.

But I could be totally wrong and others may have more info... do tell!
 

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It is a very good question indeed. Not sure I know the answer I just hope mr whitmarsh is not over exaggerating as they need a big piece of good news ..
 

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Prodromou and Marshall would be a fantastic coup for McLaren. I'm hoping it's one or both of them. I think that would be a great pair to have working under Tim Goss who I believe will stay as Technical Director. Goss would have already worked with Prodromou when he was at McLaren.
Outside chance of Costa coming to McLaren but he's only been at Mercedes for just over a year so I can't see him leaving.
Exciting times!
 

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Just in case anyone hasn't heard the news yet. :)

http://au.eurosport.com/formula-1/mclaren-hints-at-major-tech-signing_sto3951391/story.shtml

McLaren has hinted at the signing of some 'headline grabbing' technical staff to boost its bid to get back to the front of the Formula 1 grid.

Amid a disappointing 2013 campaign, and facing the prospect of its first season since 1980 with no podium finishes, McLaren says it has been conducting a thorough analysis of how it can bolster its organisation.

Team principal Martin Whitmarsh said: "We are continuously doing that - and certainly this year we cannot be satisfied where we are.

"So we have been recruiting in the technical team, strengthening that quite a lot actually. There have been quite a few new starters this year.

"There are some yet unannounced that will be headline grabbing when they are announced, so there are things going on clearly.

"We have to look at ourselves as a team, from the top of the management all the way through to our technical team, to make sure we can return to winning ways as quickly as possible."

McLaren lost technical director Paddy Lowe to Mercedes earlier this year, but did recruit Matt Morris as new engineering director from Sauber.
 

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So, according to Sport Bild, it looks like Brawn is off to McLaren next year. ;)

Google translated:
The Mercedes Formula 1 team must accept the following season a heavy loss. SPORT BILD found: Ross Brawn (59) Mercedes will leave the end of the year. When the Grand Prix of South Korea last weekend, the Briton this Mercedes-AMG Chairman of the Board Niki Lauda announced.

Successor as team leader should be Paddy Lowe, who joined mid-year of McLaren Mercedes. The obligation Lowes contributed to the termination Brawn. It is also no secret that the restructuring of the team did not like the end of last year, Brawn. Mercedes had placed him with the obligation of the new shareholder Niki Lauda (ten percent) and Toto Wolff (30 percent), two "watchdog" on the nose.

The passionate angler Brawn, who by 2004 became the technical director of Ferrari from 2000, five world titles in a row with Michael Schumacher, is considered one of the best technicians in the Formula 1 scene. In 2008 he was team principal at Honda and took over the team after their exit. In 2009 he was with BrawnGB and Jenson Button at first world champion also won the team title. End of 2009 Mercedes Brawn bought out the team, but Brawn remained head of the team.

The Briton is now associated with Honda. The Japanese want Brawn as head of its Formula 1 bring-back comeback with McLaren as early as next year in order to create efficient structures. Background: Honda will supply engines from 2015, from 2016 McLaren and other teams.
 

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Indefinitely think they missing paddy low in fAct the race guys admitted same to us,,, yes I think aero has been the problem although I think also the pushrod suspension has also confused. I don't know enough about what the problems were or are to be honest, just the car not quick enough!
 

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No clue but I would prefer one of the RB guys over Ross Braun. I think he gets too much credit for the Jenson's Championship year.
 

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They need somebody to give the tech side some 'grip and rip'.........simples really.

I would come out of retirement but have things to do. Like the odd track day and stuff.
 

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So, Peter Prodromou, the Head of Aerodynamics at Red Bull might be moving to McLaren.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/mclaren-holt-peter-prodromou-red-bull-verliert-aerodynamik-chef-an-mclaren-7788531.html

Google translated:

"McLaren brings Peter Prodromou,

Red Bull loses aerodynamic boss at McLaren
McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh had announced in Korea a personal commitment that will make headlines. Only a week later haunts the name of the paddock. There should be at Red Bull aerodynamics chief Peter Prodromou. Adrian Newey right hand.

On the transfer market, the engineers, the devil is going on. Last Mercedes and Ferrari have bought the empty market. Victims were mainly McLaren and Lotus. But now proposes McLaren back. The GP Korea McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh announced grandly that there was a Personnel to announce shortly that will make headlines. If the rumors in the paddock are right, Whitmarsh is right. McLaren Red Bull aerodynamics chief Peter Prodromou on the hook. Prodromou McLaren knows inside and out. The British citizen had been employed from 2002 to 2006 at McLaren-Mercedes. Even then he was Adrian Newey right hand. Master he followed in November 2006, to Red Bull.


Peter Prodromou with Red Bull secrets to McLaren
The skilled navigator Aero is one of the leading engineers in Formula 1 His loss is a huge blow for McLaren and a win for Red Bull. Also Newey it is a sad loss. The star designer had used over the years, a team of specialists. The problem for Red Bull but is less that one loses an excellent technician, but that internal knowledge flows in a team competition. Red Bulls followers interested in not only the technology secrets of the best cars in Formula 1, but also for the internal structures and operations of the troops in Milton Keynes. Who four-time world champion, will have to work better and more efficiently than the rest


McLaren will have to wait but at Prodromou. He can not begin until 2015 in Woking. Asked about the loss of his bosses aerodynamics to Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko was combative, "yet he does not sit in Woking!"

Red Bull protects against poaching
The transfer would be remarkable, because it is the first time in a long time that Red Bull loses one of its key figures. Part of the secret of success is the low turnover in office technology. Some speak of a sect. Once there, always there. The key engineers and strategists are chained with long-term contracts to the team. From competition you hear that it is virtually impossible to poach employees from Red Bull. On the one hand because of restrictive agreements, on the other hand because of the good pay and attractive bonuses the world champion team. So Red Bull is supposed to protect against poaching among other things, that the title bonus will be paid only if the employee in February of the following year is still on board."
 

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This is fantastic news!
I jumped when it was mentioned on SKY TV during practice. This is a big deal.
However, I shall keep my fingers crossed until it's confirmed.
 

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This is fantastic news!
I jumped when it was mentioned on SKY TV during practice. This is a big deal.
However, I shall keep my fingers crossed until it's confirmed.
Indeed! :)

Here's another article, this time from the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24504983

"Japanese GP: McLaren poach key Red Bull designer

McLaren have poached a key member of the team behind Red Bull's domination of Formula 1.

Red Bull's head of aerodynamics Peter Prodromou, a leading lieutenant of their legendary design chief Adrian Newey, will return to McLaren in time for 2015.

McLaren, for whom Prodromou worked under Newey from 2000-5, were tight-lipped but refused to deny the story.

Red Bull said they would be "very happy to continue working with" Prodromou.

The world champions, whom Prodromou joined in 2006, told BBC Sport: "Peter Prodromou has worked with Red Bull Racing for a long time, he's a valuable member of the team and there's some considerable time remaining on his current contract with us.

"We would be very happy to continue working with him in the future. He's part of a very strong technical team, led by Adrian Newey."

Newey made Prodromou one of his key initial signings after joining Red Bull from McLaren at the end of 2005.

The two have worked closely together since to turn Red Bull into a dominant force that has won three consecutive drivers' and constructors' title doubles, and are on the verge of a fourth, largely thanks to the best aerodynamics in the pit lane.

The job title that will be given to Prodromou is not yet known, but he is likely to be effectively leading the design on the team's F1 cars from 2015.

Prodromou is the "headline-grabbing signing" of which McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh spoke at the Korean Grand Prix last weekend.

Whitmarsh said: "We've been recruiting in the technical team, strengthening that quite a lot. There have been quite a few new starters already, there are some as yet unannounced that will be headline-grabbing when they get announced.

"So there are things going on. We have to look to ourselves as a team from the top of our management to our technical team to make sure we return to winning ways as soon as possible."

The recruitment will have been expensive - Red Bull are very protective of their leading players - and it underlines McLaren's determination to return to competitiveness in time for the start of their engine partnership with Japanese giant Honda in 2015.

It will also do them no harm in their attempt to tempt Fernando Alonso to join them from Ferrari.

The team are continuing their efforts to lure Alonso, first revealed by BBC Sport, and if they cannot get him for next season are determined to continue to press for him to sign for 2015.

Alonso has said he will see out his Ferrari contract, which runs to the end of 2016, and would like to extend it."
 

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Ha. I just finished reading that same article.
I'm watching the pre-qualifying show on SKY TV right now and Christian Horner just gave one of the most telling 'non-denial' answers when asked about Prodromou leaving for McLaren. It was wonderful to watch. That just about confirms it for me.
 

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Not as high up at RB as made out its ANs party....Still a good guy to have on board. They should ditch SM,the guy is responsible for putting Williams in the Pan.. took TW 2 mins to see through him.

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Cool... I wonder if they get Ross brawn as well... That would be two mega signings but assume Ross brawn only comes in principal capacity which unlikely...
Well Mikey, he might not exactly end up at McLaren but there is talk of him joining Honda. It would still be good news for McLaren.
 

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Ross Brawn must be pissed off with all the superstructure placed above him at Mercedes; second guessing and slowing the whole management process down..........I'm not convinced Martin Whitmarsh wants to carry on......and Ron has had enough of long weekends away!
 
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