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Amazon.com: Mobil1 123875 ESP Formula Engine Oil 0W-40 (6 quarts) : Automotive

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specificaly for super cars , can it be used for mp4 12c?
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Willtord
EDIT: Post removed, after reading the source material more thoroughly!
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It was designed for use in C7 series Corvettes and is more catalyst friendly. I suspect that it has less anti-wear properties. I would not use it in a European high performance vehicle. In fact, it is not for use in the C8 Z06 which uses a 5W50 oil.
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Willtord said:
It's just a rebranding of the same product, Mobil 1 ESP, apparently "so that name reflects the true spirit of its performance pedigree".

Marketing, nothing more. I wonder if sales will actually decline as a result. I'm sure that a greater percentage of users of the previously labelled product wouldn't necessarily class their vehicles as "supercars". Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Volkswagen owners, for instance.
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Almost! It is a bit watered down compared to the prev version and compensating by raising the VII index:

The old dexos2 version:

VII content = 7.2%
HTHS = 3.76 cP
HTFS (base-oil viscosity) = 2.50 cP

The new dexosR version:

VII content = 9.2%
HTHS = 3.53 cP
HTFS (base-oil viscosity) = 2.20 cP

This is primarily blended for the new Corvette...
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Willtord
Apologies, must have been jet-lagged. Previous post was based on the first paragraph here: Mobil 1 Rebrands ESP Formula 0W-40 as Mobil 1 Supercar - Corvette: Sales, News & Lifestyle
Should have read further, but was too tired at the time: "Mobil 1 Supercar 0W-40 may share the same name as Mobil 1 0W-40 but these two blends aren’t the same and are not interchangeable."

My bad. Time to correct my (jokey) statement of "everybody makes mistakes, my last one was 1997" to today (again!).
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ESP should NOT be used in cars not designed for it. 2020 and newer 720's you're supposed to use ESP, while earlier you aren't. I don't know the specifics but I believe it has something to do with emissions. I just remember seeing something that said if it's not designed for it, don't use it, so a 12C you shouldn't.
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Doctor Mark said:
It was designed for use in C7 series Corvettes and is more catalyst friendly. I suspect that it has less anti-wear properties. I would not use it in a European high performance vehicle. In fact, it is not for use in the C8 Z06 which uses a 5W50 oil.
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There is a European ESP forumula.
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Willtord
That's a sweeping generalization: "ESP should NOT be used in cars not designed for it." Please explain your rationale. ESP was designed as a low ash (when pyrolyzed) oil. It should be compatible with any vehicle requiring the same grade of oil. Have any vehicles been specifically "designed" for Mobil 1 ESP formula oil?
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EMF Audio (McMedics)
Willtord said:
That's a sweeping generalization: "ESP should NOT be used in cars not designed for it." Please explain your rationale. ESP was designed as a low ash (when pyrolyzed) oil. It should be compatible with any vehicle requiring the same grade of oil. Have any vehicles been specifically "designed" for Mobil 1 ESP formula oil?
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I don't remember where I saw it specifically, it was either on a product page for the oil or Mobil's website in regards to something with the product. I'll have to dig on that and see if I can find it again. If it can be used appropriately in any application retroactively, why produce an additional product rather than a new product? As far as a vehicle designed for it, straight from the 2021 720s handbook:
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Here's a quick guide of what changed between 2020 and 2021 models for recommended oil. The oil is more than "they added this" or "they took out this", the formulation IS different, which to some degree will effect wear properties.

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"Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 is recommended for all types of modern automobile engines, especially the high-performance gasoline and diesel engines found in the latest passenger cars, SUVs and light vans. ", as clearly stated here: PdsDetailsPage

Sweeping generalization "ESP should NOT be used in cars not designed for it" undone.
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smggsm said:
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Amazon.com: Mobil1 123875 ESP Formula Engine Oil 0W-40 (6 quarts) : Automotive

Buy Mobil1 123875 ESP Formula Engine Oil 0W-40 (6 quarts): Motor Oils - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
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specificaly for super cars , can it be used for mp4 12c?
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McLaren recommends the use of Mobil 1 New Life 0w40 oil for the MP4-12C, but the answer to the question "can it be used?" is yes.
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