[HyperMac954]

So, unfortunately (fortunately?) I can only buy one hypercar, and I'm genuinely torn. For me, it's either the Agera R or the P1. I had the 918 in the mix, but with the price closer to $1.1M instead of the original ~$850K, I think it falls off a bit in appeal. Out there are also the Veyron (never really did *it* for me), the Huayra (really didn't like it on my test drive, and the Zonda's a PitA to get over here), the SSC Tuatara (totally unproven), and the Venom (screw Hennessey).

So for me, it comes down to the Koenigsegg and the McLaren. Undoubtedly, they're both insanely fast, exotic machines. The McLaren will purportedly be built in greater numbers (300-500 units, with Koenigsegg only now approaching chassis 100 out of all their cars). I love my 12C. I drive it nearly every day, on the street, and on the track. It's a beast, and aside from a half dozen or so minor issues that have taken it off the road for a day or two at most, has been quite reliable. I've spoken to the few Koenigsegg owners I could fine, and not one of them had a single issue to speak of, though only one had more than 10K miles on it.

The F1 and the CCX shared time as posters on my wall, though I don't feel like the P1 would get the same love from 18-yr old Hypermac. The P1 will be crazy insane fast on a track, but can I bring myself to push it on the track like it should? Straight-lining the Agera to full tilt is one thing, but going out in the twisties, with other cars... kinda thinking I'll only do that once in a blue moon, and that'd be a bit of a shame.

Customer interface/service is a wash, as the level of personal interaction I've had with both Anthony Shariff and Christian von Koenigsegg has been amazing.

So what would/are you guys going to do?

 

[roundincircles]

I think it would have to hinge on driving given that I was motivated by both cars styling. If they were both equal behind the wheel............well they won't be.

Mclaren will improve build reliability as their MTC matures.

The Veyron is not a car people drive, just has bragging rights. Tank gives ludicrous range at speed.

Definitely would need to drive the P1 and be wowed.

 

[andy c]

There is only one car to choose,and thats because of all the technology thats available to it,and i dont think the numbers produced will effect the value,also imo its streets ahead in the looks department !!!!!
Well my opinion dosent count,as i would say that wouldnt i

 

[McDc]

I think the P1 beats the Agera in every department, so for me it would be a no-brainer.



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[texas mongrel]

Hyper
Asking this question on a McLaren site isn't really going to get you an impartial, dispassionate reply!

 

[roundincircles]

Actually you could probably buy both and then decide which to keep and sell the other..........almost at cost.......well almost is open to debate.

Go for the P1 as you know it will be the next 'ultimate' fast car. Bit better than the MP12 is my guess!

 

[TAG]

P1 or F70

So, unfortunately (fortunately?) I can only buy one hypercar, and I'm genuinely torn. For me, it's either the Agera R or the P1. I had the 918 in the mix, but with the price closer to $1.1M instead of the original ~$850K, I think it falls off a bit in appeal. Out there are also the Veyron (never really did *it* for me), the Huayra (really didn't like it on my test drive, and the Zonda's a PitA to get over here), the SSC Tuatara (totally unproven), and the Venom (screw Hennessey).

So for me, it comes down to the Koenigsegg and the McLaren. Undoubtedly, they're both insanely fast, exotic machines. The McLaren will purportedly be built in greater numbers (300-500 units, with Koenigsegg only now approaching chassis 100 out of all their cars). I love my 12C. I drive it nearly every day, on the street, and on the track. It's a beast, and aside from a half dozen or so minor issues that have taken it off the road for a day or two at most, has been quite reliable. I've spoken to the few Koenigsegg owners I could fine, and not one of them had a single issue to speak of, though only one had more than 10K miles on it.

The F1 and the CCX shared time as posters on my wall, though I don't feel like the P1 would get the same love from 18-yr old Hypermac. The P1 will be crazy insane fast on a track, but can I bring myself to push it on the track like it should? Straight-lining the Agera to full tilt is one thing, but going out in the twisties, with other cars... kinda thinking I'll only do that once in a blue moon, and that'd be a bit of a shame.

Customer interface/service is a wash, as the level of personal interaction I've had with both Anthony Shariff and Christian von Koenigsegg has been amazing.

So what would/are you guys going to do?

P1 or F70! Koenigsegg is lovely, but it's old school supercar. What about the new Bugatti 'HS' version'!? Perhaps not in your ballpark..

 

[GeorgeSSS]

First: Congratulations on being positioned to make such a choice. These are not cars. They are objets d'art.

There are many reasons why I would choose the McLaren, but one that might not be apparent is just your personal driving enjoyment. I know the P1 will be a smooth as silk. I've read that the K car bucks and surges at low speed. If that is true, you don't want a nervous bucking bronco under you when you are trying to enjoy a pleasant day or take someone for the cruise of their life in town. Or when you are driving your significant other.

My best thoughts. No matter what your choice, enjoy it and let us know how it is.

Two thumbs up.

 

[Kingfrog3]

P1 all the way!

 

[andy c]

First: Congratulations on being positioned to make such a choice. These are not cars. They are objets d'art.

There are many reasons why I would choose the McLaren, but one that might not be apparent is just your personal driving enjoyment. I know the P1 will be a smooth as silk. I've read that the K car bucks and surges at low speed. If that is true, you don't want a nervous bucking bronco under you when you are trying to enjoy a pleasant day or take someone for the cruise of their life in town. Or when you are driving your significant other.

My best thoughts. No matter what your choice, enjoy it and let us know how it is.

Two thumbs up.

Regarding this post Hyper,you will get the P1 up your drive,but im not so sure on the EGG ???

 

[AugustWest]

I'll agree we're talking about objet's d'art more than cars, here. And this is also without having even seen the P1 in person (let alone drive/experience it).

However, I think the P1 is very much more a "car" than the Pagani.

Having spent a couple of weeks around a Huayra, I can attest they are amazing things. I must say I've only been a passenger, though (but that was pretty amazing - INCREDIBLY DRAMATIC). The engine sounds like God is seriously pissed off, as the active aero bits constantly move shuffling air appropriately around the car. The blowoff valves should like whales spouting. They are utter artwork (all the bolts are made by Pagani, and have their logo laser-etched into them - even the tiny ones). Every time you walk up to it you notice some new, exquisite detail. While I prefer the overall look of the Zonda, the Huayra takes the insane detail work to an entirely new level. It really is a watch the size of a car!

The P1 is no doubt a technical tour-de-force (and will certainly out-drive all the others on your list). But at this level, I'm not sure that's the buying motivation, especially given the amount of time you've said you'll actually use it. It is likely going to come down to which one you'd prefer to look at and show your friends.

And - having said that - I'm not sure I could "work" the Pagani. It is serious bling (albiet still tasteful, in that way only Italians can pull off (when they try!)); not sure I wouldn't be self-conscious in it for all it's overt attention-grabbing. I can add that ANY Pagani will make a woman faint on sight; given how women usually view these things, that's an obvious plus.

David Brown said that an Aston should be beautiful enough to remove a lady's panties at 50 paces; if she knows there's a Pagani around she just goes commando.

And I'll add my "congrats" at being in such a position to have to make such a wonderful horrible decision!

 

[HyperMac954]

Regarding this post Hyper,you will get the P1 up your drive,but im not so sure on the EGG ???

hehe - first question asked by a few others recently.

Actually just bought a new house (my first - stop laughing!). 2x 4-car garages, with very clean ingress and egress.

Also enough room to eventually build my own kart track...

First step is admitting I have a problem...

 

[AugustWest]

Second step is putting out that problem fire. With gasoline!

 

[Drifter]

Konig and P1 are my two favourites of modern-hypercars, two completely unique cars, the Konig is very innovative, but I love the P1, in the flesh in terms of styling in my opinion the P1 wins all day long, theres just simply nothing out there, its genuinely unique, something that I would probably never get bored looking at. Real piece of automotive art. I love the konig though but McLaren wins for me, perfect and tough choices!

 

[HyperMac954]

I've been invited to drive the Agera in Sweden, whenever I get a chance to get out there - it's looking like mid-February at the earliest, so may as well make it March and go to the Geneva autoshow. At which point P1 specs should be known, and maybe hopefully somehow possibly get a test drive of it there or in Woking. Which ought to simplify the choice.

 

[6th element]

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[HyperMac954]

Drifter, I need to see P1 in the flesh to give a fair assessment. And from behind the wheel. I didn't much like the 12C Spyder from pics, but like it a hell of a lot more when I saw it in person (though I still dislike the flower-power wheels).

I felt the same about the Agera for a bit - that it didn't upgrade from the CCX enough, but I had a chance to sit in one and stare at one at the Quail this year, and I couldn't take my eyes off of it. I also love that it's a targa top.

I have ZERO doubt P1 is quicker on a track, BTW - not a doubt in the world.

To me, the pros and cons of each still leave it a toss up. They both are beautiful in their own rights. They're both exceedingly exotic/rare (though the Agera will end up rarer). They're both insane fast.

Part of it will come down to which is better on the street.

 

[HyperMac954]

Yes, 6E, that ass is hard to beat - probably the sexiest posterior in production street car history.

 

[6th element]

Yes, 6E, that ass is hard to beat - probably the sexiest posterior in production street car history.

Agreed. More importantly, it is what she can do with it that will keep you up at night.

 

[andy c]

Agreed. More importantly, it is what she can do with it that will keep you up at night.

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