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What a time to be a car enthusiast! About 15-20 years ago, all I wanted was a 4-second car (namely a sub 5-second 0-60mph/0-62kph). Now, sub 3-seconds has seemingly become the Everest for manufacturers!

Perhaps the most amazing aspect of the MP4-12C is all that it does w/o AWD! :eek:
 

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What a time to be a car enthusiast! About 15-20 years ago, all I wanted was a 4-second car (namely a sub 5-second 0-60mph/0-62kph). Now, sub 3-seconds has seemingly become the Everest for manufacturers!

Perhaps the most amazing aspect of the MP4-12C is all that it does w/o AWD! :eek:

I know, i remember my first ride in a 328 Ferrari, being blown away because it could wax my 7 sec XR4i... now my daughters C class benz is sub six seconds :eek::eek: i grew up when F1 cars had 425bhp, now my wifes 4 door sedan is over 500hp, great great time to be a car nut:D
 

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What a time to be a car enthusiast! About 15-20 years ago, all I wanted was a 4-second car (namely a sub 5-second 0-60mph/0-62kph). Now, sub 3-seconds has seemingly become the Everest for manufacturers!

Perhaps the most amazing aspect of the MP4-12C is all that it does w/o AWD! :eek:
Koenigsegg Agera R is also a RWD. 1099bhp and a rear drive, thats nuts!
 

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I remember the cover of a Car & Driver magazine in the late '70s, with a 930 Turbo (black) coming straight at the camera against a sunset, with the screamingly huge headline:

0-60 in 5.6!!!

And that I stood there staring, unable to believe it.
 

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I remember the cover of a Car & Driver magazine in the late '70s, with a 930 Turbo (black) coming straight at the camera against a sunset, with the screamingly huge headline:

0-60 in 5.6!!!

And that I stood there staring, unable to believe it.
Electric motors are going to make 2.5s seem like an eternity. Problem is, the batt will run out by 70!
 

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Electric-motor/IMA/KERS alongside the usual fossil-fuel burnin' engine, would be a novel approach to ultra high-performance hyper/super cars. It'll help w/ emissions/efficiency & low speed/demand cruising & also offer prodigious torque/power on-demand. An involved (read: complex/heavy) hybrid system though would be overkill.

My poor old K'egg CCR only has 840bhp. Can barely get off the line.:D
... lololols! Gotta keep'up w/ the Jone's (an American'ism), ha! :D
 

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Is it the Hennessy Venom that's the Elise with 1,200HP? If that could stick it to the pavement, it would surely be a g-ride to 60. I agree that once you have an electric motor on each wheel the numbers will shift hugely.

But remember - when the F1 came out? The fastest car on the planet was 0-60 in about 4.5 seconds. And the F1 promptly did 3.2 (another moment re-reading a line over and over again while I tried to grasp it). It took the rest of the world 20 years to catch up. I don't think even electrics will be able to shave 1/3 off in one go. At some point there's a mechanical limit (unless you're running on a cog-rail!) to what's doable in anything you could ever also drive on the street.
 

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What about double rear wheels or some change to conventional thinking to achieve off the line traction. Maybe it's some form of tyre compound/construction or suction type device?

Or maybe we have to wait for the The Vulcan's to ' crack it', sorry a Vulcan would not say that, simply 'apply a solution'.
 

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Is it the Hennessy Venom that's the Elise with 1,200HP? If that could stick it to the pavement, it would surely be a g-ride to 60. I agree that once you have an electric motor on each wheel the numbers will shift hugely.

But remember - when the F1 came out? The fastest car on the planet was 0-60 in about 4.5 seconds. And the F1 promptly did 3.2 (another moment re-reading a line over and over again while I tried to grasp it). It took the rest of the world 20 years to catch up. I don't think even electrics will be able to shave 1/3 off in one go. At some point there's a mechanical limit (unless you're running on a cog-rail!) to what's doable in anything you could ever also drive on the street.
Any idea what 0-60 is in a current F1?
 
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