Well your last requirement about holding value makes your choice a 2year old R8 that is depreciated or a lotus Evora for learning about handling. Or a chipped Boxster.
Nice try Bruce,but he doesnt want it spending too much time at the garage?Ferrari 360 F1 coupe![]()
Wheres yer 12c m8Nice try Bruce,but he doesnt want it spending too much time at the garage?
Cayman R seems best
Pretty much. Just had this thought that I could usefully use this time to really get to grips with a sports cars. My driving history is 205 Gti, Focus ST and now RS4 so I've not spent serious time in RWD yet....(though if you mean "bridge the gap between now and delivery time with a toy" then I guess you do!).
Think if I could make the finances work I'd do the same as there's nothing else to touch it for an all round everyday car, particularly in Avant form as mine is. Compact, soulful, adequate power, stirring noise when you want it, stealthy when you don't, load lugging and long distanceI have an RS4 as well, which I bought because after I drove one, I realized it has one of the best naturally aspirated motors ever made (and certainly ever in a sedan). What a brilliant car. I plan to keep it forever.
Fezzas are off the list as too exotic/flighty/temperamental and haven't heard good stories about customer service/support. My impression is that Porsche's are pretty bomb proof and can stand up to their envelopes being explored on a regular basis. EVO often bang on about how Porsche are one of the few manufacturers of sports cars that can genuinely cope with a track day thrashing followed by the drive home. Anyone got any experiences on reliability etc?My opinion is that your bridge car should be RWD, and therefore not an R8. I would say a 360 Challenge Stradale is the perfect choice, except you have the criteria of long distance trips, which rules that out.
From the time I've had in 12Cs so far, I haven't noticed any old school turbo lag, delivery is very linear. I'm less concerned about power, and more into getting to grips with handling mid/RWD. Hmm, looks like a visit to local Porsche dealership is on the cards - I suppose every petrolhead should have at least one Porsche in their history somewhere.Cayman seems like a reasonable choice, but you'd be acclimatizing to a smaller car (than the 12C in terms of overall dimensions), way down on power (actually, less than your RS4, too) and no turbos. Driving a turbo car rapidly demands a technique of its own, so something to consider.
Touche!Wheres yer 12c m8![]()
Porsches are pretty Bomb proof,never had any problems,even after modding.Pretty much. Just had this thought that I could usefully use this time to really get to grips with a sports cars. My driving history is 205 Gti, Focus ST and now RS4 so I've not spent serious time in RWD yet.
Think if I could make the finances work I'd do the same as there's nothing else to touch it for an all round everyday car, particularly in Avant form as mine is. Compact, soulful, adequate power, stirring noise when you want it, stealthy when you don't, load lugging and long distance.
Fezzas are off the list as too exotic/flighty/temperamental and haven't heard good stories about customer service/support. My impression is that Porsche's are pretty bomb proof and can stand up to their envelopes being explored on a regular basis. EVO often bang on about how Porsche are one of the few manufacturers of sports cars that can genuinely cope with a track day thrashing followed by the drive home. Anyone got any experiences on reliability etc?
From the time I've had in 12Cs so far, I haven't noticed any old school turbo lag, delivery is very linear. I'm less concerned about power, and more into getting to grips with handling mid/RWD. Hmm, looks like a visit to local Porsche dealership is on the cards - I suppose every petrolhead should have at least one Porsche in their history somewhere.
What? R8 has plasticky interior? I just bought one and it has one of the best interiors ever. Better that any other Audi, Maserati, Ferrari, Mercedes or BMW I owned. The chassis is superb and very rear-drive feeling. The car will oversteer big time when provoked and you have to be fast to catch it. Very entertaining. Very agile and very good steering feel. The only complaint i have is that v10 at low revs does not sound anything special. Also, the open gate manual can be a a bit of a pain in fast downshifts from 5/4 and 3/2. On the other hand, it's a dream to heel and toe. Great car all around.There's no point changing the RS4 for an R8 - Actually the interior build of the RS4 is better and less 'plasticky' than the R8 and the real-world performance is nigh on identical (even though the low slung mid-engined R8 does of course handle better). In many ways I miss my RS4 as it was such a great all-rounder. The more I consider your dilemma the more I think you'd regret selling it as it is the ideal adverse weather / practical mission alternative to your forthcoming 12C, so keep it!
I changed mine for an M3 comp which is quite simply fantastic. Much more fun than the Audi, the only negative is that it is useless in anything other than the lightest of snowy conditions and it has less load carrying capability than the RS4 Avant!
Of course its performance pails into insignificance when compared to the 12C![]()
I've driven a few and whilst they are immensely accelerative and have ridiculous levels of grip, fundamentally it's another 4 wheel drive car, which I already have. I'll be getting that sort of acceleration/power with the 12C. On a more boring note, I'm not sure the value would hold terribly well.a nissan GTR. Very fast car but still easy to drive
practical for a daily use
I did really like the R8 manual change. something very cool about the clack-clack of a gear change, but as you say very similar power to the RS and it's also 4WD. Does look like the case is more and more for a Cayman S. Think the R might be too hardcore and only a slim % extra in outright performance/handling.There's no point changing the RS4 for an R8 .....The more I consider your dilemma the more I think you'd regret selling it as it is the ideal adverse weather / practical mission alternative to your forthcoming 12C, so keep it!