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Only saw a couple of reports. Surely many more must have driven the cars by now.

Any more observations?

As expected, blown away, disappointed?
 

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Doesn't reach CA for test drives until end of the month. There's only a single test car for the entire country, and it's making the rounds now. I'm scheduled to drive it Oct 26. Finally.
 

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Hummmmmm.....I am going to have to work on this one, especially since I will be at Cal Speedway all weekend.
 

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huh, I've only seen/heard reports of the VR test car - it's the car that was at Pebble Beach and being test driven in Connecticut last month. If there are two, all the better. Either way, that's very few cars for us to test.
 

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The Dallas dealer told me he expects a "demo" car in late November... Don't know if it's the same one making rounds or a different one. We'll see.
 

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That's odd Moncho, I got a call from Dallas today (I'm in Houston too) and they told me there'll be a big launch party for the demo car on Nov 15th. Best thing about the call tho' was getting my order number and slot number -I'm now trying to find out exactly what this means in terms of delivery date, but Park Place reckon it will be late-January.
 

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Last month at McLaren Philadelphia, there were two cars, one red, the other black. I got to drive the black car. It had Carbon-Ceramic brakes and the standard exhaust. It was raining and there was a lot of traffic--conditions that made it difficult to learn much about the car. What little I could learn is in comparison to two other cars: a 2009 Nissan GT-R (iron brakes, run-flat tires) and a 2010 Corvette ZR1 (C-C brakes, run-flat tires, 6-speed manual).

The McLaren's ride was a little softer than the ZR1's and much much softer than the GT-R's. The Mclaren's transmission is smoother at low speeds than the GT-R's, and much more convenient than the ZR1's 6-speed manual.

I suspect that the GT-R is more precise through high-speed turns than the McLaren.

The ZR1's throttle response is better. And the ZR1's C-C brakes are much better than those of the McLaren. Specifically, the ZR1's brakes are linear with pedal pressure, the Mclaren's are definitely not. Also, the ZR1's brakes are an order of magnitude cheaper.

Nevertheless, I am looking forward to acquiring a McLaren, though I can't find out when that will be.
 

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huh, I've only seen/heard reports of the VR test car - it's the car that was at Pebble Beach and being test driven in Connecticut last month. If there are two, all the better. Either way, that's very few cars for us to test.
In Asia, I was recently informed after dealer being non communicative for the past month and a half that showroom opening delayed indefinitely probably well into 2012 and there won't be a showroom car let alone a test car till 2012 Q1. Delays and more delays in Asia.
 

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Last month at McLaren Philadelphia, there were two cars, one red, the other black. I got to drive the black car. It had Carbon-Ceramic brakes and the standard exhaust. It was raining and there was a lot of traffic--conditions that made it difficult to learn much about the car. What little I could learn is in comparison to two other cars: a 2009 Nissan GT-R (iron brakes, run-flat tires) and a 2010 Corvette ZR1 (C-C brakes, run-flat tires, 6-speed manual).

The McLaren's ride was a little softer than the ZR1's and much much softer than the GT-R's. The Mclaren's transmission is smoother at low speeds than the GT-R's, and much more convenient than the ZR1's 6-speed manual.

I suspect that the GT-R is more precise through high-speed turns than the McLaren.

The ZR1's throttle response is better. And the ZR1's C-C brakes are much better than those of the McLaren. Specifically, the ZR1's brakes are linear with pedal pressure, the Mclaren's are definitely not. Also, the ZR1's brakes are an order of magnitude cheaper.

Nevertheless, I am looking forward to acquiring a McLaren, though I can't find out when that will be.
Interesting comment on the brakes, do you think the MP4-13C brakes just never got enough heat in them?
 

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In Asia, I was recently informed after dealer being non communicative for the past month and a half that showroom opening delayed indefinitely probably well into 2012 and there won't be a showroom car let alone a test car till 2012 Q1. Delays and more delays in Asia.
That is very strange as my friend in Hong Kong has spec his car last month and paid a second deposit. In Spore, my car is confirmed to arrive in Jan. Suggest you check again.
 

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That is very strange as my friend in Hong Kong has spec his car last month and paid a second deposit. In Spore, my car is confirmed to arrive in Jan. Suggest you check again.
will do. However, this is quite interesting. To spec his car last month in HK? How? There is no price list no option list published. Unless I have been missing something, how can you spec something that hasn't been priced locally? The showroom has not opened, the test car has not arrived and the option list has not been furnished. I doubt anyone will get a delivery before x'mas. Perhaps I am not the VIP. However, I am already motoring with my 458. Can't be happier... instead of worrying about delays and all, the 458 is wonderful. Too many uncertainties and waiting around for MP4-12c. People lose patience around here.
 

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will do. However, this is quite interesting. To spec his car last month in HK? How? There is no price list no option list published. Unless I have been missing something, how can you spec something that hasn't been priced locally? The showroom has not opened, the test car has not arrived and the option list has not been furnished. I doubt anyone will get a delivery before x'mas. Perhaps I am not the VIP. However, I am already motoring with my 458. Can't be happier... instead of worrying about delays and all, the 458 is wonderful. Too many uncertainties and waiting around for MP4-12c. People lose patience around here.
Happy for you, Calitalia. Enjoy - it is the right choice of car and company for you. That is sincere, not sarcastic. Happy motoring. :)
 

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will do. However, this is quite interesting. To spec his car last month in HK? How? There is no price list no option list published. Unless I have been missing something, how can you spec something that hasn't been priced locally? The showroom has not opened, the test car has not arrived and the option list has not been furnished. I doubt anyone will get a delivery before x'mas. Perhaps I am not the VIP. However, I am already motoring with my 458. Can't be happier... instead of worrying about delays and all, the 458 is wonderful. Too many uncertainties and waiting around for MP4-12c. People lose patience around here.
I spec my car 2 months ago with an indicative price for the car and options. My built date was wk 44 but has been delayed as the Singapore showroom will open in Jan. My Hong Kong friend spec his car like i did with indicative prices. The 458 is a great car enjoy it. Too bad you blew a chance to own a McLaren.
 

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Interesting comment on the brakes, do you think the MP4-13C brakes just never got enough heat in them?
I was under the impression that the behavior of Carbon-Ceramic brakes might improve slightly with temperature but not as much as it does with Carbon brakes. Am I wrong?
 

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I spec my car 2 months ago with an indicative price for the car and options. My built date was wk 44 but has been delayed as the Singapore showroom will open in Jan. My Hong Kong friend spec his car like i did with indicative prices. The 458 is a great car enjoy it. Too bad you blew a chance to own a McLaren.
why does he need to own a mclaren? its second best. actually according to autocar, its 6th best, behind a lotus and a cayman.
 

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why does he need to own a mclaren? its second best. actually according to autocar, its 6th best, behind a lotus and a cayman.
Correction, second best to ringers. . .
 

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why does he need to own a mclaren? its second best. actually according to autocar, its 6th best, behind a lotus and a cayman.
He does not. I don't buy my car base on reviews of motor journalist. I have a 458 (reviews say its the best) and i cannot wait for my McLaren to arrive. So are you the type of Ferrari owner or want to be Ferrari owner who thinks that only Ferrari knows how to make cars or do you just don't like McLaren.
 
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