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Very immpresive stats,the percieved problem with the brakes is that the airbrake dosent react untill after 60 mph,thats why the 200-0 distance is so good,lap time for VARIANO is a new record so its either the 12c or Aventador,its going to be close,time out tommorow allegedly
 

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Mycroft: Help me understand what I'm looking at here, yes maybe I am being.....thick! Please be easy on me.....

Is this an Itailan mag testing on a circuit?

An explanation of the data would be appreciated as I don't understand the reference to brakes but the MP12 seems to do OK?
 

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0-200km/h in 9 seconds dead and acceleration on par with Aventador from 0 up to 250km/h? If I am reading that correctly, that is stupendous. Especially for a RWD car. Standing start or 1 foot rollout?
 

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Laptimes (and magazine) are out tomorrow. This is all I could pull from image-processing a video of some woman flicking through the mag on the net.

 

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Mycroft: Help me understand what I'm looking at here, yes maybe I am being.....thick! Please be easy on me.....

Is this an Itailan mag testing on a circuit?

An explanation of the data would be appreciated as I don't understand the reference to brakes but the MP12 seems to do OK?
someone can put up the link from fastestlaps.com,its on the german car forum,probably the most comprehensive results so far in a head to head
 

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With it now

Did the MP12 have CB or iron brakes?
 

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Very immpresive stats,the percieved problem with the brakes is that the airbrake dosent react untill after 60 mph,thats why the 200-0 distance is so good,lap time for VARIANO is a new record so its either the 12c or Aventador,its going to be close,time out tommorow allegedly
Hmm never thought about that, regarding the brakes, but makes sense. If the brake bias is static and more rearward than normal, full braking force will not be possible until the Air Brake activates. Can somebody clarify?
 

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Mycroft: Help me understand what I'm looking at here, yes maybe I am being.....thick! Please be easy on me.....

Is this an Itailan mag testing on a circuit?

An explanation of the data would be appreciated as I don't understand the reference to brakes but the MP12 seems to do OK?
It's a test by an Italian mag that isn't officially out tomorrow that we've underhandedly managed to pull scans from.

The 0-XX figures are acceleration figures for 0 to 60, 100, 200 and 250kph.

0-400m is a quarter mile time.

0-1000m is a standing mile.

Frenata = Brakes. 100-0 and 200-0.

McLaren scored full marks for braking potence and modulation.

Motor - Top marks for driving quality, not so good sound. Potence - full marks.


I thing cambio volo complessivo is total lap performance.

Prestazione is performance.

Basically the Aventador and MP4 destroyed the 599 GTO and GT3 RS 4.0.
 

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Hmm never thought about that, regarding the brakes, but makes sense. If the brake bias is static and more rearward than normal, full braking force will not be possible until the Air Brake activates. Can somebody clarify?
yes,pretty sure thats the case,at least thats what it feels like when you hit it hard,and thats how this car prefers to be driven
 

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Thanks Mycroft. Impressive stuff. Now what tyres and brakes helps with interpretation, ie CB's or Iron discs?

Interestingly spoke with Robbie today who recently acquired a new 458 and MP12 and he said the iron discs,combined with the air brake is staggering. He has done something like 3000 miles in the MP12 and a similar distance in the 458 with his 26 year old son also driving. Remember his 458 has CB's and he said choose the iron on the MP12.
 

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Italian mags dont do rollout,like uk mags,so yes
so, another 10.7 quarter mile from a standing start.
where are krzys and emve? by now, they should be telling us that the 12C fails to live up to its promises. ;)

damn, the Lambo engineers must be scratching their heads! and yes, that puts them in a pickle for the Gallardo replacement, as you said before! :)
 

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It's a test by an Italian mag that isn't officially out tomorrow that we've underhandedly managed to pull scans from.

The 0-XX figures are acceleration figures for 0 to 60, 100, 200 and 250kph.

0-400m is a quarter mile time.

0-1000m is a standing mile.

Frenata = Brakes. 100-0 and 200-0.

McLaren scored full marks for braking potence and modulation.

Motor - Top marks for driving quality, not so good sound. Potence - full marks.


I thing cambio volo complessivo is total lap performance.

Prestazione is performance.

Basically the Aventador and MP4 destroyed the 599 GTO and GT3 RS 4.0.
That creates a dilemma,as the 599gto is in Ferrari,s own words,the quickest Ferrari ever made ,and its in an Italian magazine
 

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You guys with cars and waiting for delivery feeling better?

This is stats wars gone mad.......well maybe not, I want to believe this test is objective so need to know who supplied or where did the cars come from!

Seriously how many buy on stats?
 
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