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P10. This is a wake-up call for Britain. It's time for many of you to stop acting like schmucks and recognize what you have. McLaren should elicit national pride, not contempt.

P9. In a few hours, several elderly Italian men will take their espresso earlier than usual and convene. Stratagems will be bandied about. But, really, most of them will be thinking "I'm too old for this shit."

P8. If any car will ever have the sheer significance and historical impact of the McLaren F1, it may very well be P1. If not for its outright performance, then for the fact that it will save us from the THREE Bs - Big, Bloated and Bangled. History has shown us that the most esteemed are those that offer us salvation. Look how many people love Jesus Christ.

P7. If journalists have a hard time understanding the 12C, then I fear a lot of grey matter will be sizzled trying to comprehend P1. What do you get when "too capable" and "too perfect" are augmented by five times the downforce?

P6. How exactly does a company so small build new products so quickly? Is this the Formula One development race being brought to the street? If so, somebody should let McLaren's competitors know. 12C, then Spider, now P1 and P13 still to come... even in Stuttgart they must be saying "Ich verstehe nicht".

P5. If you are still wondering whether Frank Stephenson is the right man for the job, then you are probably beyond help, at this point. However, one way to save yourself from further embarrassment is to go and find a different designer to critique.

P4. One morning within the next year, we will all wake up to find a YouTube video of Chris Goodwin, Jenson Button and, if we are lucky enough, perhaps Lewis Hamilton going round a racetrack faster than anybody has ever done before in a street-legal automobile. I'm guessing that will be a pretty cool video.

P3. Right now, a Ferrari dealership in Canada is trying to figure out how they can sue every blogger that writes a positive article about P1.

P2. All McLaren 12C owners will notice that their car has extra pep this weekend. No, it is not the 25 PS upgrade. It is the sensation of looking skyward, like battle-worn infantry men on the field, to see P1 overhead and flying the side's colours. "Hey, it's one of ours!!"

P1. A tall, oafish TV celebrity began conjuring a script today. In his well-worn style, it is peppered with words like "ruthless", "clinical" and perhaps the phrase "assembled by automatons". Sometime shortly after he delivers his sermon, a racing driver in an all-white suit and helmet will set a new lap record in a McLaren, ironically taking the top spot from...... another McLaren.
 

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On thought P1, the man in the white suit will lap the track faster than the purpose built racers that have screamed around the small airfield....and it's time will stay on the board a McLaren currently sits just off the top of.
 

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I might have been to harsh regarding the PR dept........McLaren DOES NOT have to release a thing till Geneva ........the P1 says it all ;0) OMG i can't stop looking at the images......gonna burn the night oil figuring out how to acquire one!
 

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P10. This is a wake-up call for Britain. It's time for many of you to stop acting like schmucks and recognize what you have. McLaren should elicit national pride, not contempt.


P6. How exactly does a company so small build new products so quickly? Is this the Formula One development race being brought to the street? If so, somebody should let McLaren's competitors know. 12C, then Spider, now P1 and P13 still to come... even in Stuttgart they must be saying "Ich verstehe nicht".



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On P10, you got that right, but Brits have a way of slagging of our own..:D

On P6, when you are developing all products based on the same basic chassis side by side for 5 years its quite easy to bring them to market in short order.

Not sure im in love with the looks, but i hope for Mclaren's sake its a hit.
 

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I might have been to harsh regarding the <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> dept........McLaren DOES NOT have to release a thing till Geneva ........the P1 says it all ;0) OMG i can't stop looking at the images......gonna burn the night oil figuring out how to acquire one!
buy a 12c to start with,stop sitting on the fence;):D
 

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On P9.......oh and they conclude to issue injunctions to anyone who mentions the M word in the same sentence as Ferrari.

Entertaining and I'm sure Ron will gain pleasure from reading it. I will mention it to him if he gets back from Paris in time for early doors this evening.
 

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P10. This is a wake-up call for Britain. It's time for many of you to stop acting like schmucks and recognize what you have. McLaren should elicit national pride, not contempt.
You are so far off the truth with this I can't even bring myself to comment until I come off the ceiling! :mad:
 

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P4 - JINX!! Oops!
Checo, lucky b--tard, not only will he drive the MP4-28, he might get a whirl in P1!
Go Checo!
 

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Odd. Many of the other comments would indicate otherwise.
There is a very positive view towards McLaren in the UK from those who actually know what they are doing. I've seen numerous reports about them keeping industry alive in the UK, being at the cutting edge of new technology and that type of thing. Weren't they also used as part of the campaign about putting the great back into Great Britain (or something similar)?

The negative usually gets more press than the positive though.
 

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Funny stuff :)

Observation: the McLaren vs Ferrari rhetoric is similar to the Ford-vs-Chevy debate on other message boards. With owners, in person, I see a different dynamic: respect.
 

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P6. How exactly does a company so small build new products so quickly? Is this the Formula One development race being brought to the street? If so, somebody should let McLaren's competitors know. 12C, then Spider, now P1 and P13 still to come... even in Stuttgart they must be saying "Ich verstehe nicht".
Could have something to do with all of these products being released to market before they are complete? Maybe there's someone in Stuttgart saying "Ja, that P1 may be fast but it's sat nav will never work!"? :)
 

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Could have something to do with all of these products being released to market before they are complete? Maybe there's someone in Stuttgart saying "Ja, that P1 may be fast but it's sat nav will never work!"? :)
I think the cost overrun on IRIS meant McLaren couldn't match Merc's offer for Lewis! :p
 

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P9. In a few hours, several elderly Italian men will take their espresso earlier than usual and convene. Stratagems will be bandied about. But, really, most of them will be thinking "I'm too old for this shit."
Elegantly understated.

I think the P1's meld of form follows function (engineered AND designed simultaneously) is inevitable to cause a paradigm shift at any other company that wishes to create an car of comparative performance.

Car design via years of tradition might need more than just a bit of tweaking to be able to compete with the dynamism brought forth by the purposeful design of the P1.
 

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You are so far off the truth with this I can't even bring myself to comment until I come off the ceiling! :mad:
There is a very positive view towards McLaren in the UK from those who actually know what they are doing. I've seen numerous reports about them keeping industry alive in the UK, being at the cutting edge of new technology and that type of thing. Weren't they also used as part of the campaign about putting the great back into Great Britain (or something similar)?

The negative usually gets more press than the positive though.
Im with the guys above , mclaren have a great reputation in the uk . not really sure where that came from .
 

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Im with the guys above , mclaren have a great reputation in the uk . not really sure where that came from .
Well, it's hardly an original thought. Pistonheads' Dan Trent on McLaren:

"It’s a peculiarly British habit this. We’re a lot harsher on our own and very quick to knock down to size any in our midst who looks like they might be getting a bit big for their boots."

Although I will claim to have pointed it out specifically almost a year before he wrote his article.
 
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