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How many owners have CC brakes? Or are the normal brakes good enough for street driving? Don't plan on doing much track time.

Also, is the Sport Exhaust worth it?

How many have added sport cats, or added straight pipes on the pre-cat section of the exhaust?
 

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I have gone through 12 pages thoroughly in this section, no answers so far. Reason I didn't get along with the FCHAT crowd, responses like the one's above. I even started sounding just like them and pointing kids who were not even close to being able to buy a Ferrari to the "search button." Someone with the financial means to afford a McLaren should be treated a little better. Thank got Alessandro at McLaren of San Francisco didn't send me to the "search button.". Lol
 

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Let me preface this by saying I wasn't aware of any of Mark's FChat 'antics' before the link was posted here in another thread, but I can say that in his recent posts on LamboPower in their McLaren section he's been fairly enthusiastic about the potential purchase of a 12C and I don't suspect he has come here with the intent to cause trouble. Maybe we give him a chance?

To answer the questions, even though I exemplify one of those "kids who were not even close to being able to buy a (in this case) McLaren"... ;)

The general theory, and the one being promoted by McLaren, is that if you don't plan for much if any track use the standard steel brakes are the better choice. They also end up being lighter which is somewhat counter intuitive. Cost of replacement is much lower and there's no concern of chipping the rotors when mounting wheels on the car.

Some have raised the concern that the steel brakes lack the cooling vents in the front that are included with the carbons, but we can assume McLaren have done their homework here in the decision to leave them out. I have yet to see anyone complain of brake fade under high temps with the steels, unless they have done so in the owner's section.

Sport exhaust is more about sound than any real performance benefit - perhaps you'll have the opportunity to sample both as it seems that would be the best way for each individual to decide. If you know you like a bit more sound from your car it is probably necessary as that why it was originally created.

Hope this helps, and maybe chills the mood a little. :)

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i have the steel brakes, don't track my car and i don't see any need to get the CCB. As for the exhaust, no improvement in the performance but it does sound better. If you prefer louder exhaust like the 458, than i suggest you go for the sports exhaust.
 

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On the basic purchase & ownership FAQ's, perhaps we can curate the reoccuring themes like brake options, pre-cog 101's, and 'driving pearls' into a sticky?

Also, would love to see a curated thread on 12C vs 'contender' ownership/driving experiences.
 

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Let me preface this by saying I wasn't aware of any of Mark's FChat 'antics' before the link was posted here in another thread, but I can say that in his recent posts on LamboPower in their McLaren section he's been fairly enthusiastic about the potential purchase of a 12C and I don't suspect he has come here with the intent to cause trouble. Maybe we give him a chance?

To answer the questions, even though I exemplify one of those "kids who were not even close to being able to buy a (in this case) McLaren"... ;)

The general theory, and the one being promoted by McLaren, is that if you don't plan for much if any track use the standard steel brakes are the better choice. They also end up being lighter which is somewhat counter intuitive. Cost of replacement is much lower and there's no concern of chipping the rotors when mounting wheels on the car.

Some have raised the concern that the steel brakes lack the cooling vents in the front that are included with the carbons, but we can assume McLaren have done their homework
here in the decision to leave them out. I have yet to see anyone complain of brake fade under high temps with the steels, unless they have done so in the owner's section.

Sport exhaust is more about sound than any real performance benefit - perhaps you'll have the opportunity to sample both as it seems that would be the best way for each
individual to decide. If you know you like a bit more sound from your car it is probably necessary as that why it was originally created.

Hope this helps, and maybe chills the mood a little. :)

>8^)
ER
Thanks for the kind response. Looking at two cars, one new, one used. Hence the questions, only dif. is mileage, caliper color, some little interior differences, and brakes.
Asked the sports exhaust question simple because of the comparison reviews between the 458 and MP4, nods always given to the 458 for sound. My Esprit V8 though really sounded great after adding sport cats, and replacing the muffler with straight pipes, hence I know how good a smaller V8 can sound.
 

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How many owners have CC brakes?

-Unknown - the iron brakes seem to be the overwhelming majority


Or are the normal brakes good enough for street driving?

-No question, they are good enough for any driving. The iron brakes are fantastic on the track, the carbons are fantastic longer.

Don't plan on doing much track time.

-Hopefully you will end up doing more than than you thought.

Also, is the Sport Exhaust worth it?

-Only if you have a hard on for inconel.

How many have added sport cats, or added straight pipes on the pre-cat section of the exhaust?

-As far as I know only 1 car has added the sport cats with a new exhaust. See the Fabspeed thread.

I can't imagine anyone regretting having any or none of the these options. It doesn't seem like the performance options make a huge difference. I seems like paint color is the most important when making this car yours.

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I have gone through 12 pages thoroughly in this section, no answers so far. Reason I didn't get along with the FCHAT crowd, responses like the one's above. I even started sounding just like them and pointing kids who were not even close to being able to buy a Ferrari to the "search button." Someone with the financial means to afford a McLaren should be treated a little better. Thank got Alessandro at McLaren of San Francisco didn't send me to the "search button.". Lol
Proof money doesn't equate to manners.
 

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How many owners have CC brakes?

-Unknown - the iron brakes seem to be the overwhelming majority


Or are the normal brakes good enough for street driving?

-No question, they are good enough for any driving. The iron brakes are fantastic on the track, the carbons are fantastic longer.

Don't plan on doing much track time.

-Hopefully you will end up doing more than than you thought.

Also, is the Sport Exhaust worth it?

-Only if you have a hard on for inconel.

How many have added sport cats, or added straight pipes on the pre-cat section of the exhaust?

-As far as I know only 1 car has added the sport cats with a new exhaust. See the Fabspeed thread.

I can't imagine anyone regretting having any or none of the these options. It doesn't seem like the performance options make a huge difference. I seems like paint color is the most important when making this car yours.

Welcome.
just about everything you need to know on here,perfect falb:)
 

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There has been a lot of discussion on the brakes. I'm not sure if I have ever heard a definitive answer. There seems to be a consensus that they are both great but it's been less than a year of ownership for most. The CC's look better. That seems to be a big selling point even at the cost. I would love to see a revisiting of this subject down the road especially from those who have owned different cars with CCBS. I know what you mean about other forums with trolling. That doesn't happen here, at least not yet. This is a very different car and car company.
 

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Proof money doesn't equate to manners.
Re-read, above posts, then hi-light something actually "offensive." Unless asking questions in a polite manner is offensive to you too?
 

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So you didn't understand what I was pointing out as being impolite or you've glossed over that? Not trying to pick an argument but the highlighted statement and the one that followed is just ridiculously elitist...
 

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So you didn't understand what I was pointing out as being impolite or you've glossed over that? Not trying to pick an argument but the highlighted statement and the one that followed is just ridiculously elitist...
I really don't need a lesson from you on an Internet car Forum on what is polite. I asked a simple question, and received one snotty reply, and that is ok then, LOL. You def. sound like a former FCHAT member.
 

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I really don't need a lesson from you on an Internet car Forum on what is polite. I asked a simple question, and received one snotty reply, and that is ok then, LOL. You def. sound like a former FCHAT member.
Excuse me? I'm "snotty" now, because I directed you to the search function which can unearth a raft of useful information already posted about the subjects you're asking about? So, is this the point at which you start sending insults and threats to other users via PM?
 

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Excuse me? I'm "snotty" now, because I directed you to the search function which can unearth a raft of useful information already posted about the subjects you're asking about? So, is this the point at which you start sending insults and threats to other users via PM?
I think it's best to just let this thread die. Request sent.
 
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