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Independents can work on Aventadors. The same cannot be said for McLarens short of one or two vendors worldwide. I was told by a reliable/trustworthy independent that maintenance outside of a dealership would be likely half of what we pay for the annual maintenance on a Mac (that’s not counting renewing the warranty when 720s start clmkng out of warranty)
 

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Independents can work on Aventadors. The same cannot be said for McLarens short of one or two vendors worldwide. I was told by a reliable/trustworthy independent that maintenance outside of a dealership would be likely half of what we pay for the annual maintenance on a Mac (that’s not counting renewing the warranty when 720s start clmkng out of warranty)
Well but if you see the quoted prices of HR Owen (very big UK Lamborghini dealer) these are way way more than 720s prices ... additionally would you really want to have issues when selling a 450k€ Aventador after 2-3 years bc you did not let it service by an AD ? I would for example never consider a used car not serviced by the dealer for these complex modern machines ... it’s not like we are talking 60is 70is sports cars which basically are mechanically quiet easy to maintain even if having a v12 ... and even there you need specialists for nearly every thing above a basic oils change of you want a car that performs well ...
 

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They are both great cars.
Locally, I know several Aventador owners, and every single one of them, has had all sorts of issues, so I would definitely not say they are more reliable than a 720s.
I have had my 720s for 8 months and it had 7,000 miles. I know have 9,100 and the car has been problem free.

The cars are in a different class performance wise - the 720s will run around them with ease in every category.

Looks are completely subjective - they are both gnarly looking cars. You really can't go wrong with either. Drive them both and decide for yourself.
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I own both. The Lambo wins for drama, noise, and getting attention. The 720S wins for car quality and refinements (like the 360-degree camera). But here's a solid piece of advice: get the roadster/spider version of whichever one you choose. Nothing is more fun in these cars than the wind in the cockpit as you race down a sunny highway.
 

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I have both as well and specced each so I could get exactly what I wanted--2014 Aventador Roadster and 2019 720S coupe. Taking the top off the Roadster has to be done manually and it is stored in the frunk. Although I live in southern California, I have only removed the top once since it such a pita for me. Visability is poor and I would be worried about city parking even with the back-up camera. I usually do canyon/back road runs and the Aventador seems like a pig compared to the 720S (the S, SV and SVJ are most certainly better though).

I have had zero mechanical issues with the Aventador--it has been rock solid and annual dealer service runs about $2500 (on par with the 720S).

As others have said, I would drive both back to back if possible and see what you like best.

Since getting the 720S, I haven't driven the Aventador...I really like it better in almost every way.
 

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I have both as well and specced each so I could get exactly what I wanted--2014 Aventador Roadster and 2019 720S coupe. Taking the top off the Roadster has to be done manually and it is stored in the frunk. Although I live in southern California, I have only removed the top once since it such a pita for me. Visability is poor and I would be worried about city parking even with the back-up camera. I usually do canyon/back road runs and the Aventador seems like a pig compared to the 720S (the S, SV and SVJ are most certainly better though).

I have had zero mechanical issues with the Aventador--it has been rock solid and annual dealer service runs about $2500 (on par with the 720S).

As others have said, I would drive both back to back if possible and see what you like best.

Since getting the 720S, I haven't driven the Aventador...I really like it better in almost every way.
Great insight! I recently sold my Ford GT because I always found myself driving the 720 over it. Was trying to think of what to replace the FGT with and an AVY roadster is all I can come up with that still feels "kind of analog" with the single clutch and n/a power. But I have no doubt I'd always pick the 720 over it too. So what's the point?? I'm not a car collector by any means. So something sitting all the time drives me nuts. Got an allocation for the new Ford GT, so I'm looking forward to that, but I'll be curious if I ever want to drive it over the 720 lol...
 

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Great insight! I recently sold my Ford GT because I always found myself driving the 720 over it. Was trying to think of what to replace the FGT with and an AVY roadster is all I can come up with that still feels "kind of analog" with the single clutch and n/a power. But I have no doubt I'd always pick the 720 over it too. So what's the point?? I'm not a car collector by any means. So something sitting all the time drives me nuts. Got an allocation for the new Ford GT, so I'm looking forward to that, but I'll be curious if I ever want to drive it over the 720 lol...
You are right--it does feel very "analog" and one of the reasons I enjoyed driving the 430 Scud as well. The 720 is just so much more fun to drive though.

Interesting to hear how you like the new FGT. I think it is such a visually stunning car. Another new FGT owner brought his beautiful liquid blue one in for ppf right before I brought my 720 in and he even wrapped the underside (well I guess I might too since it's all CF!).
 

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I had SV and currently have both 720 and SVJ. Completely two different cars. 720 feels like a go cart and SVJ (SV) feels like a space shuttle.

720 can be daily driver and visibility in it is awesome.

SVJ (or SV) is just special to drive. The sound and the presence is just wow. It is definitely not a daily driver. I love them both! If I were to keep one, it would be SVJ.
 

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Here are my thoughts based on the experiences.
Owned a huracan but my cousin had Aventador so i got to drive it plenty times. Compared to 720s. Way better sound, all seasons driveability wt its awd, no bullshit errors, very reliable. He had the car for 2 years, 16k miles, not one issue. Depreciation is better than 720s.

720s, more fun with its wicked twin turbo rwd set up. Better looking car, better interior, more agile, lighter, smaller and great cornering in dry conditions.

This is all talking about the base Lambo. Between two i picked up the 720s after the huracan as i love turbo cars and i didnt want to dump 70k to my huracan to change my set up to a twin turbo. Also i do enjoy the rwd fun and nimble steering on track or backroads. Cheap plastic all over the lambo was also a turn off. Yeah all the errors and dealer visits are annoying about the 720s but to me well worth it.
 

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Thanks for all the continued responses. I was still very much on the fence until yesterday, leaning toward the 720.

I took my 650 out of storage and on a drive for the first time in a while. It was once again McLaren issues upon issues. Even though the car was cared for well during the 3-4 month winter storage period it was acting up all over the place. Researching each of the 4(!) issues showed that no one, not even service centers really understand the reasons behind them or how to address them. The most common "fixes" for each were restart/reset/let it idle/try again another day.
Ultimately, I was able to drive it, but at that point I was too scared to even turn off the engine during a rest stop in the canyons where it would be many hours to wait for a tow. That kind of BS negates all of the fun which the driving experience really, really is. I've been scared off by the McLaren brand as a whole. Combined with a lack of dealer/service center in my city, I'm going with the Aventador. Unfortunately, I can't afford the SV/SVJ, so I will be stuck with an inferior driving experience in a base 2013 (roadster likely though) compared to the 650/720. But at least I will sleep soundly knowing it'll likely start next weekend without computers failing. 😞Feeling defeated a bit.
 

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Sorry to hear about your issues. Can you elaborate more on what the 4 issues were?
Yea, sure:
  1. The most annoying was the "e-brake re-engaging" problem. When taking it off, it would come back on 1 second later. You can "force" it off and drive, but it re-engaged every time you come to a stop. This forum has a few instances of this
  2. Next on the annoying scale was the driver-side window not rolling up entirely.
  3. Then despite having been on a trickle charger, and after letting the car run for a good amount of time, the battery showed 1%.
  4. And oil status was "conditions not met" and didn't clear. Despite a recent service with oil & filter change and letting it warm up.
I suspect all these issues are somehow related to the car not passing some sort of internal boot-up procedure test, thus not allowing the e-brake to disengage, keeping the window down so it wouldn't break if the door has to be opened. Maybe faulty/old battery is root cause. Would be great if the car would actually display that as an error. Unfortunately, there were no "errors" displayed unless you went into the menus and checked each status field individually.
 

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Yea, sure:
  1. The most annoying was the "e-brake re-engaging" problem. When taking it off, it would come back on 1 second later. You can "force" it off and drive, but it re-engaged every time you come to a stop. This forum has a few instances of this
  2. Next on the annoying scale was the driver-side window not rolling up entirely.
  3. Then despite having been on a trickle charger, and after letting the car run for a good amount of time, the battery showed 1%.
  4. And oil status was "conditions not met" and didn't clear. Despite a recent service with oil & filter change and letting it warm up.
I suspect all these issues are somehow related to the car not passing some sort of internal boot-up procedure test, thus not allowing the e-brake to disengage, keeping the window down so it wouldn't break if the door has to be opened. Maybe faulty/old battery is root cause. Would be great if the car would actually display that as an error. Unfortunately, there were no "errors" displayed unless you went into the menus and checked each status field individually.
That would get annoying in a hurry - no doubt!
 

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Yea, sure:
  1. The most annoying was the "e-brake re-engaging" problem. When taking it off, it would come back on 1 second later. You can "force" it off and drive, but it re-engaged every time you come to a stop. This forum has a few instances of this
  2. Next on the annoying scale was the driver-side window not rolling up entirely.
  3. Then despite having been on a trickle charger, and after letting the car run for a good amount of time, the battery showed 1%.
  4. And oil status was "conditions not met" and didn't clear. Despite a recent service with oil & filter change and letting it warm up.
I suspect all these issues are somehow related to the car not passing some sort of internal boot-up procedure test, thus not allowing the e-brake to disengage, keeping the window down so it wouldn't break if the door has to be opened. Maybe faulty/old battery is root cause. Would be great if the car would actually display that as an error. Unfortunately, there were no "errors" displayed unless you went into the menus and checked each status field individually.

Faulty battery is strangely not detected by many cars ... I remember I had to jump start my SLS last year after winter with a battery booster and thought after driving it for about 100km the battery should be fine again ... parked it and guess what ... I could not even open it without the mechanical key and had to jump start it again ... however while driving its it never showed any warning ... your 650s battery may well be 5-6years old now if is still the first and might have similar issues. Maybe that is exactly what is causing the trouble as it looks typical for that kind of problem ...
 

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Faulty battery is strangely not detected by many cars ... I remember I had to jump start my SLS last year after winter with a battery booster and thought after driving it for about 100km the battery should be fine again ... parked it and guess what ... I could not even open it without the mechanical key and had to jump start it again ... however while driving its it never showed any warning ... your 650s battery may well be 5-6years old now if is still the first and might have similar issues. Maybe that is exactly what is causing the trouble as it looks typical for that kind of problem ...
Yes, it's what I'm thinking too. Good thing replacing the battery in a McLaren is both easy and cheap 😂
 

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Yes, it's what I'm thinking too. Good thing replacing the battery in a McLaren is both easy and cheap 😂
Certainly not cheap or easy. Nevertheless, if the battery is at the heart of your problems then the car is really having just one issue as opposed to multiple 'reliability' issues.
 

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I'm sure he was being sarcastic. My main message was centered on my 2nd sentence. I really hope that is the main and the only issue
 

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Lol yea one has to be sarcastic to stay sane.
In true McLaren fashion all of these issue simply disappeared today. ...... Still doesn’t help my confidence ;)
 

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Lol yea one has to be sarcastic to stay sane.
In true McLaren fashion all of these issue simply disappeared today. ...... Still doesn’t help my confidence ;)
.... people today are really difficult to satisfy ... see McLaren built a car already 5 years ago that can heal and repair itself if only left alone for some time and still not confident about it ... 🤪
 
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