thanks for the nice and thorough review. It's always great to have more options out there.
How long was the oem setup lasting you?
How long was the oem setup lasting you?
You are correct, the front rotors are 394mm. My mistake. The issue seems to be with the OEM calipers. Even with the surface transform discs, they don’t last that long due to uneven wear. @unmac can give more details on that. The hope with this kit is that it will solve the uneven wear of the OEM system. These rotors are similar to the ST rotors in that they are long fiber rotors and can be refurbished when worn. I still stand by my assertion that using 390mm rotors, in order for the calipers to fit better, would be better, since I doubt 4mm of diameter will make much of a difference in braking torque or heat dissipation. The calipers are what make this system attractive in the first place.@LTAnthony
Are you sure your stock brakes are not 394mm Front and 380 mm rear? The real observation here may be that those calipers have less clearance than stock.
BTW, Surface transforms rotors are less expensive and use the stock calipers. They work flawlessly on track and are available for resurfacing? Just a few data points!
XPRD
How are the Surface Transform rotors holding up on the Senna?600 Lt, 720, 765, senna, 620r have premature wear on the front brake pads , which in turn causes pre mature wear on the front rotors . The rears take a long time to wear out . The issue is the oem front calipers . The pads do not wear evenly. Top to bottom , side to side . You could have plenty left on the bottom of the pad but the top of the pad goes out very fast . It wears out the same way whether it is steel , oem, aftermarket . However , steel lasts a lot longer .
brake kits that come with an aftermarket caliper wear out a lot better . Upto now , the only brake kit that came with its own caliper was ap racing . I know a few people who use that kit but it came a few years after 600/720 came out . At the timeor shortly after release of these cars , giro steel was the only option and that is what the vast majority of people went with . It’s one of those things where the market is not very big as not enough of these cars get tracked so frequently .
the surface transforms and giro kits do not come with its own caliper and that is why the brake kit is cheaper . I’m the only one in USA with a senna that is running surface transform (there’s a handful of people in Europe and Australia that are running them on senna .
I can confirm the front rotor is 390x36 for 720 (vs. 570's 394x36). The reason for us to use 394x36 is to unify the design and applications so that not only the kit can fit ALL McLaren models w/CCB but the replacement discs (394/380) are more commonly available at lower cost from GM dealers or online retailers.@LTAnthony
Are you sure your stock brakes are not 394mm Front and 380 mm rear? The real observation here may be that those calipers have less clearance than stock.
BTW, Surface transforms rotors are less expensive and use the stock calipers. They work flawlessly on track and are available for resurfacing? Just a few data points!
XPRD