Hi everyone and thank you for all the insights and information so freely given that I am enjoying reading. I am in the market for a 12C and have had test drives in both versions. My question is this: Is a 2011/12 car with the upgrades the thing to buy now because of depreciation or would it still be better to get a brand new car? are they essentially the same or have there been improvements under the skin, so to speak, that are not upgradeable? Thanks for your help.