They say 1000-1500 cars a year. Here, in the US, the wait for a new order is now through the end of 2012, so I would expect the values to hold up very well through the first two years. After that, who knows?
MP4-12C & Depreciation?
Any idea on how values are expected to hold up over the first 1, 2, and 3 years?
Has McLaren made a final commitment on production numbers?
Has McLaren made a final commitment on production numbers?
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I've been trying to figure this out. It's a tough call. Wait lists are tall and the attrition in the first year's orders are very low so far. That is good news since the wait list will likely be stacked up past the 2nd yr of production. On the flipside, it seems that many people if given the choice will choose a 458 over the 12C. Wholesale values for the 458 are weakening and will continue to decline through the remainder of the year as more of them are on the road and more get traded in for the spyders.
So do you think the 12C wait lists will hold if 458 coupes get relatively "cheap". It's hard to say. It will have some effect for sure but I think 12C residuals should do reasonably well assuming currency swings are minimal.
So do you think the 12C wait lists will hold if 458 coupes get relatively "cheap". It's hard to say. It will have some effect for sure but I think 12C residuals should do reasonably well assuming currency swings are minimal.
The other wild card is what happens when they bring out the MP4-12C spider. How many coupes will get traded in and suddenly come back on the market?
Given that there now have been a few secondary market sales, what is the current thinking regarding depreciation?
Flat till April then 10 - 15k over list
maybe more in UK
maybe more in UK
Then as all the ex 458 owners come across a flat curve!
Timing on the release of the Spider will have an impact.Flat till April then 10 - 15k over list
McLaren will not shoot themselves in the foot with coupe so be a while yet imop
I assume that's a dealer resale price though? I've not seen many about s/h - just really trying to figure if I decide I don't like it whether I'm going to get stuffed in late summer next year...Flat till April then 10 - 15k over list
I think you will be able to sell privately with some ease IF the Financial world does not implode in which case we are all screwed so it wont matter
Any idea what the last few MP4s to trade hands have gone for?
Private sales 8 over dealer sales depending on mileage 10 to 35yes 35
This is very good news for us owners because they are bound to rise further in Spring!
This is very good news for us owners because they are bound to rise further in Spring!
Apologies but i didnt understand this....Private sales 8 over dealer sales depending on mileage 10 to 35yes 35
This is very good news for us owners because they are bound to rise further in Spring!
Expect to be able to sell privately for $8K over sticker, and dealers to resell for between $10K and $35K over sticker.Apologies but i didnt understand this....
Expect that to get better (more expensive) come spring as weather improves, and there are more people aching to have one.
It might help that they will be seen more than similar brands,as they are so usableExpect to be able to sell privately for $8K over sticker, and dealers to resell for between $10K and $35K over sticker.
Expect that to get better (more expensive) come spring as weather improves, and there are more people aching to have one.
Thanks for the translation...it was a long day!Expect to be able to sell privately for $8K over sticker, and dealers to resell for between $10K and $35K over sticker.
Expect that to get better (more expensive) come spring as weather improves, and there are more people aching to have one.
I will bear this in mind when mine arrives next month....
My dealer is requiring that I sign a repurchase agreement with them to resell them the car at MSRP or market value (which ever is lower), in the event I would sell the car, as a condition to sale. The justification is that they are selling the car at MSRP when they could sell it over MSRP. I'm not looking to resell the car anytime soon, but this just rubs me the wrong way!
Anybody else having this issue??
Anybody else having this issue??
Birmingham and Manchester didnt do it,but i think London tried but didnt succeed.I know many overseas dealers have also tried,but if youve been on the list before the dealers got their dealerships then i think you have a reason to refuse.As for customers placing orders with these dealerships then they have the upper hand,and we have had some discontent here when some early adopters moved on their cars for a quick buck!My dealer is requiring that I sign a repurchase agreement with them to resell them the car at MSRP or market value (which ever is lower), in the event I would sell the car, as a condition to sale. The justification is that they are selling the car at MSRP when they could sell it over MSRP. I'm not looking to resell the car anytime soon, but this just rubs me the wrong way!
Anybody else having this issue??
Although i have to say some cars were sold on for personal reasons not for profit
Moncho, I'm guessing you're dealing with Park Place? I had to sign the first refusal form when I placed my deposit. My lawyer says they'd struggle to make it stck tho'
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