I sure hope not, you would figure that these cars would be progressing and not regressing, so I'm going with the 12C, sorry GeorgeSSS. Cheers....??I know this is a dumb question (that has never stopped me before), but which would be faster in a lap around Laguna Seca: The 12C Can Am on modern racing tires or the M8F on tires from the 70's. I think it still has to be the M8F by a huge margin. I'm guessing Mitch can give us some idea of the answer.
OK Mitch. You da Man on this stuff, and this is really telling. The M8F has 740hp, weighs 1519 pounds and a power to weight ratio of .48. The Can-Am has 630 HP and weighs 2645.5 for a power to weight ration of .23 (less than half). But I can see what you're saying: Paddle shifting plus better aero plus modern suspension is going to have its day.extremeride has it George, even with modern tyres the aero is just nowhere near good enough to go up against the Can-Am. It'd blow by on the straights but would have a hard time keeping up thru the twisty bits.
True!The M8's are ridiculously fast on the straights. The McLaren F1 GTR longtail is just a bit quicker than them on Spa Francochamp but that's mostly due to the cornering speeds (aero). I'd say that the MP4-12C Can Am has more downforce, more advanced suspension and electronics, and more sophisticated braking system than the F1 GTR Longtail. More power and torque, too.
The McLaren F1 GTR longtail won that race by 16 seconds. The F1 GTR's lap time was 1.3 seconds faster than M8FGuys, what am I not understanding here? The purple M8F ran off and hid. If these 1970's Chevy powered hot rods can out do an F1 GTR (which I think is one of the great cars of all time), I have to think they would thump a 12C Cam Am. Am I missing something here?
Illustrating exactly what you told us originally: The M8F will do fine on the straights but lose it on the twisty bits.What's really telling in that video is just how much downforce the F1 GTR (and any modern sportscar racer GT) has compared to those Can-Am/Grp7 cars. Watching the Eau Rouge shots you hear the Can-Am cars have to lift of essentially right the way thru up to the top of the hill whilst the F1 GTR just lifts for the left hander and is then back on the power thru the right then left up the hill.