[eMcL]

I think with the options I want, it's probably going to be a tad rich for me, too. I just really love the car I have now.

I’m waiting for your test drive to convince you to sell your soul 😁

 

[invisiblewave]

I’m waiting for your test drive to convince you to sell your soul 😁

I'm more likely to return from this trip wanting a P1 GTR....

 

[invisiblewave]

I’m waiting for your test drive to convince you to sell your soul 😁

To add insult to injury, the personalized itinerary for Silverstone starts with a full page picture of an Artura on track....

 

[alexceres]

270 gets you to a pretty good place, even with the track options. It’s just really hard to do less than 250

 

[alexceres]

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[invisiblewave]

270 gets you to a pretty good place, even with the track options. It’s just really hard to do less than 250

At the original list of $225k, I might have been tempted even with a couple of options. Once we're up to $270, that's getting close to twice the current value of the car I have now, which is difficult to justify to the financial side of my brain.

 

[Lotus000]

Does that include the telemetry and cameras?

caneras are technolog pack

 

[GenevaGT]

270 gets you to a pretty good place, even with the track options. It’s just really hard to do less than 250

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so at that price ur now in range for a low mileage 720S. So which car would you rather have and which one makes the most financial sense. For me the 720S is an easy call. And that brings up an interesting question. Are there any current 720 owners that would trade for an Artura??

 

[alexceres]

so at that price ur now in range for a low mileage 720S. So which car would you rather have and which one makes the most financial sense. For me the 720S is an easy call. And that brings up an interesting question. Are there any current 720 owners that would trade for an Artura??

There seem to be folks whose leases are up or have had a 720 for a while and just want something new. The interior and electronics are A LOT better. If you were in a 720 and thought "hmm a McLaren GT might be better for the driving I'm actually doing" then the Artura is pretty fantastic. If you're in a 720 and think "wish I got the LT", then, no, it's not.

 

[invisiblewave]

There seem to be folks whose leases are up or have had a 720 for a while and just want something new. The interior and electronics are A LOT better. If you were in a 720 and thought "hmm a McLaren GT might be better for the driving I'm actually doing" then the Artura is pretty fantastic. If you're in a 720 and think "wish I got the LT", then, no, it's not.

You're also saving $5k a year on a warranty. Any 720 at that price point is out of warranty.

 

[Lotus000]

Does that include the telemetry and cameras?

I fibbed to you. There IS a track-pack camera option. It's for three cameras. Unsure, as someone earlier said, whether you need the tech pack.

McLaren Track Telemetry - Laptime Function & Three Cameras

$2,850

$0

 

[invisiblewave]

I fibbed to you. There IS a track-pack camera option. It's for three cameras. Unsure, as someone earlier said, whether you need the tech pack.

McLaren Track Telemetry - Laptime Function & Three Cameras

$2,850

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$0

I saw that. Not sure what the three trim levels already include.

 

[Lotus000]

I saw that. Not sure what the three trim levels already include.

do you have the “pricing tool” spreadsheet?

 

[invisiblewave]

do you have the “pricing tool” spreadsheet?

I do not.

 

[Kev the Ref]

Leasing on the Artura has a residual of 77% for 24mo and 71% for 36mo. That is pretty amazing. I don't have money factor details yet but if anyone knows please let

If it was the UK it could not have. We have to pay 20% V.A.T. (Value Added Tax.) Then a special new car Tax of 10%. Once it's got License Plates, it old & once sold, so becomes a second hand car.
We say over here(translated)When the tires touch the blacktop you've lost 30% already. That is unless there is a waiting list, like the TESLA smokeless ROADSTER!

 

[invisiblewave]

If it was the UK it could not have. We have to pay 20% V.A.T. (Value Added Tax.) Then a special new car Tax of 10%. Once it's got License Plates, it old & once sold, so becomes a second hand car.
We say over here(translated)When the tires touch the blacktop you've lost 30% already. That is unless there is a waiting list, like the TESLA smokeless ROADSTER!

There's tax here too, they just ignore it. US prices are always quoted net of tax. Used prices are effectively controlled by the dealers through the auction monopoly.

 

[GenevaGT]

You're also saving $5k a year on a warranty. Any 720 at that price point is out of warranty.

but now factor in the depreciation curve and once again a low mileage pre-owned 720 becomes an attractive option vs. a nicely optioned Artura. The new 5 year warranty should help but with no track record time will tell. Not trying to make the case for one vs the other just suggesting it becomes worth consideration.

 

[invisiblewave]

but now factor in the depreciation curve and once again a low mileage pre-owned 720 becomes an attractive option vs. a nicely optioned Artura. The new 5 year warranty should help but with no track record time will tell. Not trying to make the case for one vs the other just suggesting it becomes worth consideration.

Oh definitely. Depreciation is a huge issue on any new car. What the warranty does, though, is make it a much more attractive long term proposition, so the depreciation is amortized over a longer period. Then there's also the question of the long term value of an aging 720, and whether the arrival of the Artura will affect that, which I strongly suspect it will.

 

[Trevor90]

Oh definitely. Depreciation is a huge issue on any new car. What the warranty does, though, is make it a much more attractive long term proposition, so the depreciation is amortized over a longer period. Then there's also the question of the long term value of an aging 720, and whether the arrival of the Artura will affect that, which I strongly suspect it will.

why? Artura and 720 are not compareable..

 

[invisiblewave]

why? Artura and 720 are not compareable..

Sure they are. Most of the reviews even compared it with the 296, which has far more power than the 720.