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McLaren poised to redefine the rules of Grand Touring

5 Mar 2019

McLaren announces intention to introduce a new Grand Tourer
Announcement made by CEO, Mike Flewitt, during McLaren’s Geneva press conference
Image released of a camouflaged car
The fourth McLaren to be revealed under the Track25 Business Plan
Revealed in a few months time; follow cars.mclaren.com/newrules
McLaren promises to redefine the rules of Grand Touring when it releases its own interpretation of the Grand Tourer in just a few months. The announcement was made by CEO, Mike Flewitt, at the company’s press presentation during the 89th International Geneva Motor Show.

“The fourth McLaren to be introduced under the Track25 business plan will be our interpretation of the Grand Tourer. It will be a car that combines competition levels of performance with continent- crossing capability, wrapped in a beautiful lightweight body. It’s a car that has been designed for distance and one that will also provide the comfort and space expected of a Grand Tourer. But with a level of agility never experienced before in this segment. In addition, it will be the lightest of Grand Tourers and by also having the best power-to-weight ratio, I promise it will be one of the quickest. In addition, it will be the only Grand Tourer to share its DNA with the 250mph McLaren Speedtail.”
Mike Flewitt, CEO, McLaren Automotive

Neither the name of the car nor its final design were revealed. But an image of the McLaren of Grand Tourers shown in a distinctive camouflage has been issued. Mike did confirm that it will be a sleek, beautiful and boldly elegant car, one keeping to the McLaren philosophy of every design detail being present for a reason. The interior will feel spacious, uncluttered and modern with only authentic, high quality materials employed. He also promised that the McLaren of Grand Tourers will be the most usable mid-engined car yet.

Mike went on to say that the McLaren of Grand Tourers will not form part of any of the company’s existing model Series and will be a unique, tailored model. Its name and more information are set to be released over the coming months.
 

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Well this is very interesting. What exactly is the base for this car?
My assumption is that there will be enough storage space for a couple of travel suitcases. The current cars only provide space for track helmets cash and credit cards ....
 

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So a 2+2? The R&T article said it’s competing with the Portofino, so that would be interesting... I’ve been looking at the Portofino (or a California T) as a daily driver.. but if this is available in the coming “months”, then this could be interesting... though I’d prefer convertible and pretty sure this will be a coupe..

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God this release is timed so perfectly. A new generation of Astons, 911s, GT's and Portofino all following old rules. I'm excited to see what McLaren can bring to the GT game, especially since their sports cars are already so comfortable.
Sadly I think people will complain about having bought a 570GT though. I personally love McLaren's aggressive and competitive approach as a manufacturer.
 

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Super cool. Interesting that it’s around 570 pricing as there is already a 570 gt model. The 720 is already a great gt everything car... I’m not sure why this car is needed in the line up because the gt side seems well covered. That said, I’m stoked to see what they put out here.
 

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Super cool. Interesting that it’s around 570 pricing as there is already a 570 gt model. The 720 is already a great gt everything car... I’m not sure why this car is needed in the line up because the gt side seems well covered. That said, I’m stoked to see what they put out here.
They promised a lot of cars, gotta fill those spaces. Hopefully it will be really good, but to me if they stick with the 570S suspension id find that weird, the Superseries suspension is to me the things that makes the car an epic long drive car. Especially on less than perfect roads.
 

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My assumption is that there will be enough storage space for a couple of travel suitcases. The current cars only provide space for track helmets cash and credit cards ....
Yeah, but what car is it based on? The 720S?
Well from the press release seems it is a new GT not based on any current series?
“Mike went on to say that the McLaren of Grand Tourers will not form part of any of the company’s existing model Series and will be a unique, tailored model”
 

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So a 2+2? The R&T article said it’s competing with the Portofino, so that would be interesting... I’ve been looking at the Portofino (or a California T) as a daily driver.. but if this is available in the coming “months”, then this could be interesting... though I’d prefer convertible and pretty sure this will be a coupe..

Thanks!

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I have been told the first model will not be a 2+2, although that could follow in time.

The summary seems to be that this car will be a "hard" version of a 570GT or a "soft" version of a 720S.
 

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I have been told the first model will not be a 2+2, although that could follow in time.

The summary seems to be that this car will be a "hard" version of a 570GT or a "soft" version of a 720S.
Yes. I'm thinking more along the lines of the NSX which has some rear trunk space … ? And some comfy seats.
 

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Well from the press release seems it is a new GT not based on any current series?
“Mike went on to say that the McLaren of Grand Tourers will not form part of any of the company’s existing model Series and will be a unique, tailored model”
Interesting they would create a whole new chassis or carbon tub to make this seperate line. If it shares the same tub, im surpised they would even make a non 2+2 since they already have cars that fill that niche
 

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Interesting they would create a whole new chassis or carbon tub to make this seperate line. If it shares the same tub, im surpised they would even make a non 2+2 since they already have cars that fill that niche
Not saying they're doing it, but with a CF tub, how hard could it really be to make the whole car longer? Probably pretty easy.

I'm guessing it's just going to be a car with more luggage space somehow.
 

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Not saying they're doing it, but with a CF tub, how hard could it really be to make the whole car longer? Probably pretty easy.

I'm guessing it's just going to be a car with more luggage space somehow.
Not that easy im sure. If they are going to extend the tub, its going to cost a decent amount to do new RnD on all the stress testing. Considering he said we will see it in 'months'

He said in the press conf. that its a new segment away from sports/super/hyper not that its a brand new development of vehicle.
 

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Interesting they would create a whole new chassis or carbon tub to make this seperate line. If it shares the same tub, im surpised they would even make a non 2+2 since they already have cars that fill that niche
Not saying they're doing it, but with a CF tub, how hard could it really be to make the whole car longer? Probably pretty easy.
I'm guessing it's just going to be a car with more luggage space somehow.
Yes the tub is separate from the front and rear aluminum sub frames — which could be lengthened. So if McLaren wanted to use an existing tub that would be possible ...
 

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So a 2+2? The R&T article said it’s competing with the Portofino, so that would be interesting... I’ve been looking at the Portofino (or a California T) as a daily driver.. but if this is available in the coming “months”, then this could be interesting... though I’d prefer convertible and pretty sure this will be a coupe..

Thanks!

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I have been told the first model will not be a 2+2, although that could follow in time.

The summary seems to be that this car will be a "hard" version of a 570GT or a "soft" version of a 720S.
That is really weird then... as others have mentioned the 570GT already exists, and if all it’s doing is adding luggage space, that sounds way too close. The GT already has extra luggage space, so building an entirely new car for just more luggage space...??

I specifically want the 2+2 so, in a pinch, I can pick up/drop off the kids if I needed to.

Thanks!

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That is really weird then... as others have mentioned the 570GT already exists, and if all it’s doing is adding luggage space, that sounds way too close. The GT already has extra luggage space, so building an entirely new car for just more luggage space...??

I specifically want the 2+2 so, in a pinch, I can pick up/drop off the kids if I needed to.

Thanks!

Z.
Yeah that was one of the things that I liked about the Porsche Turbo S. The other options you mentioned are front mid engine. The 570GT doesn't have much luggage space and blocks interior rear view IMO.
 
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