[RWD]

Now I am looking forward to the Quail this year:
http://www.bonhams.com/press_release/10096/

If you haven't been to this event and you are in the area, I recommend it. In 2005 I had a car displayed and it was a top notch event and fun crowd. More quaint than Concorso.

A few photos from Bonhams

 

[Peloton25]

We've started discussing this one over here:

http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/other-road-cars-f1-m6gt-m81/331-mclaren-f1-sale.html

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[Peloton25]

Bonhams has put their auction description online complete with 43 stunning photos:

Bonhams 1793 : The Ex-GTC Gulf Team Davidoff - 1997 McLaren F1 GTR 'Longtail' FIA GT Endurance Racing Coupe Chassis no. 028R

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A thing of beauty - can't wait to see it!

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[HyperMac954]

It's pretty awe-inspiring in person - it is MASSIVE. I believe it's close to 7' longer than the stock F1. And LLLOOOOWWWW - can't even slip the lip of my shoe underneath splitter.

 

[Peloton25]

I believe it's close to 7' longer than the stock F1.

I covered this in the other thread, but you will probably be shocked to learn there's just a 22.3" difference in overall length from the standard car to the longtail.

Normal F1 - 4367 mm (171.9 in)
Longtail F1 - 4933 mm (194.2 in)

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[TougeSpirit]

It's the flatness of the rear tail that adds to the illusion. But it is stunning in person.

So friggin low, I have more pics, but really lazy

 

[TougeSpirit]

Meh, one more to show how low the thing is. Maybe you can fit a toothpick or two under the splitter

 

[Peloton25]

Oooh - post more like that please!

Debating getting up early tomorrow and burning some gasoline to pay this thing a visit.

Meh, one more to show how long the thing is. Maybe you can fit a toothpick or two under the splitter

Part of that is down to the low air pressure in that front tire - it's down at least 10 psi in that picture.

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[HyperMac954]

I love that you took the pics from the right side - didn't want the F1 car in the background? lol

 

[HyperMac954]

I covered this in the other thread, but you will probably be shocked to learn there's just a 22.3" difference in overall length from the standard car to the longtail.

Normal F1 - 4367 mm (171.9 in)
Longtail F1 - 4933 mm (194.2 in)

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ER

I question that based purely on when Tom P. had his F1 parked next to this one, the Longtail stuck out substantially more than 22".

 

[Peloton25]

Well those are the official figures - I'll see if I can find something different later on, or something that can allow a better visual comparison between the two.

I could also bring a tape measure with me when I go.

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[TougeSpirit]

I love that you took the pics from the right side - didn't want the F1 car in the background? lol

I have pics from every which side. Front, rear, left right, "under," inside, etc. My lighting is a little off in some pics, I'm not a pro so darn. Alan is a complete gentleman, he opened the doors up for me, gave me the royal treatment. Can't say enough good things about him. I have plenty of pics of Coulthard's car too. Do you guys really want me to clog up this thread with pornography?

 

[Peloton25]

It won't be used for much of anything else if you don't.

You could host the ones you like in an album on Flickr, Photobucket or Picasa pretty easily and then just link to it if you don't want to spend the time embedding them all.

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[TougeSpirit]

Yeah, will do later (when I sleep). I wanna throw in some MP4-12C and MP4-16 pics into the album. Photobucket takes forever to upload and it slows my whole connection down. Now that I look at the pics again, I wish I took some more of the rear 3/4 angles from more of a distance (especially from the left) and wait to get the right light and look, oh wells. Didn't have the best camera and wasn't able to completely review my shots.

 

[Peloton25]

I covered this in the other thread, but you will probably be shocked to learn there's just a 22.3" difference in overall length from the standard car to the longtail.

Normal F1 - 4367 mm (171.9 in)
Longtail F1 - 4933 mm (194.2 in)

I question that based purely on when Tom P. had his F1 parked next to this one, the Longtail stuck out substantially more than 22".

Well those are the official figures - I'll see if I can find something different later on, or something that can allow a better visual comparison between the two.

Small apology - the source I borrowed that data goofed a bit. The 4,367mm figure for overall length is actually for the 1996 F1 GTR, which is based on the short tailed bodywork, but is still slightly longer than a standard F1 road car.

The actual overall length for the road car is 80mm shorter at 4,287mm or 168.78 in. This changes the difference in overall length slightly to 25.4". Given your earlier comment, I am sure you are still saying "No way..."

Wheelbase of the F1 road car is 2,718mm and the wheelbase of the Longtail GTRs is just 5mm longer at 2,723mm. Doors are nearly interchangeable parts as is all the glass as far as dimensions are concerned.

To give a more visible representation I pulled together these two images, one version with segmented lines to show where certain parts of the cars line up and where the longtail carries its extra length. Click each one to view the high res version.



I think being so low to the ground and significantly wider at the rear gives the impression of more length visually, but it just isn't there.

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[Graham Reed]

this car will be at Wilton Classic and Supercar Day this Sunday

 

[HyperMac954]

Isn't that in the UK? Why would they ship and show it in the UK, only to bring it back to Monterey a week later for the auction?

 

[Peloton25]

There are three longtail F1 GTRs that currently wear the Gulf livery and appear for the most part to be identical.

The factory has GTR #20R displayed on the Boulevard at the McLaren Technology Centre.

There is also one in the ROFGO Collection of Gulf liveried racers - chassis #22R - pictured on the previous page with the 12C GT3s and also below when the collection was first shown at last years Retromobile in Paris.

The last of the trio is GTR #28R which is still at McLaren San Francisco and will be headed to auction soon.

There's also GTR #25R over in Japan which originally wore this livery until a serious fire at Le Mans in 1997, and GTR #24R also wore it during at least one race in 1997. Today #25R is painted bare White and and #24R wears its Red/White/Yellow EMKA/EMI livery from its appearance at the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1998.

Anyway - the story is that it will be the ROFGO car that goes to Wilton House, but there's always the chance it could be McLaren's that shows up instead.

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[Peloton25]

And it is indeed the ROFGO car headed for Wilton House:

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[falb]

There is just something so wrong about a car that beautiful and rare being loaded into a box truck with randomly placed plywood to get it on the ramp.