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McLaren is apparently responding with a new sports car based on the MP4-12C that will rival the Ferrari 458 Speciale.

650 hp lots of carbon special livery roof scoop.
 

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lets just say the car being shown at Geneva is not an updated 12c,the 12c as it stands will still be available,i'm not going to P$$s people off by doing a citylad and say fact,but it comes from a source lower than Ron Dennis :cool:
 

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Your story here seems to be mixing a bit of this

http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/mclaren-mp4-12c/6945-anyone-know-what-mclaren-planning-geneva.html

With a bit of that:

http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/mclaren-mp4-12c/5370-special-mso-12c-full-carbon-roof.html

I can assure you with near certainty that the new updated 12C will not feature the carbon fiber roof snorkel seen on this MSO special.

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Why don't you think Mclaren will have their Speciale version?

Andy there is a lot of profit to be made - Porsche Ferrari Lambo why wouldn't Mclaren go there.
 

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Doug ,Eric only said it won't have a roof snorkel as standard,you can have one through MSO though :cool:
I heard which means nothing and apologies for the pic it was the wrong one that there will be a special version and a snorkel is a good start :)
 

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lets just say the car being shown at Geneva is not an updated 12c,the 12c as it stands will still be available,i'm not going to P$$s people off by doing a citylad and say fact,but it comes from a source lower than Ron Dennis :cool:

Oh my now I'm so confused. I was assured 100% that it will replace the existing 12C. I do trust Andy above all others, tho. Including Ron! :)
 

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lets just say the car being shown at Geneva is not an updated 12c,the 12c as it stands will still be available,i'm not going to P$$s people off by doing a citylad and say fact,but it comes from a source lower than Ron Dennis :cool:
Quite surprised to hear that really. Blows a hole in the theory of moving the 12C upmarket to make more room for the newbie P13. Anyway, I trust your sources of course and we could never confuse you with pitylad.

Why don't you think Mclaren will have their Speciale version?
My assumption was that the new 12C would fill that role on its own - not that there would be a special version.

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Quite surprised to hear that really. Blows a hole in the theory of moving the 12C upmarket to make more room for the newbie P13. Anyway, I trust your sources of course and we could never confuse you with pitylad.
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They need an entrant lower than the current 12C. This simply is where the money is, fighting it out with the R8s and 911s. It's crowded but profitable
 

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Quite surprised to hear that really. Blows a hole in the theory of moving the 12C upmarket to make more room for the newbie P13. Anyway, I trust your sources of course and we could never confuse you with pitylad.



My assumption was that the new 12C would fill that role on its own - not that there would be a special version.

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Thinking out loud but perhaps this kinda whT they doing. 12c continues for now . P13 arrives and 12c disappears so there is a bigger gap but a gap commensurate with what we were probably all expecting between p13 and son of (or god of) 12c...

My sources however are worse than a townie... I?e it's just my hypothesis
 

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Thinking out loud but perhaps this kinda whT they doing. 12c continues for now . P13 arrives and 12c disappears so there is a bigger gap but a gap commensurate with what we were probably all expecting between p13 and son of (or god of) 12c...

My sources however are worse than a townie... I?e it's just my hypothesis
Something like that Mikey,but the standard 12c lives on after Geneva ;)
 

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Oh my now I'm so confused. I was assured 100% that it will replace the existing 12C. I do trust Andy above all others, tho. Including Ron! :)
Nope - just an upgraded version.

Instead of Ferrari I should have referenced Porsche - GT3 version is more accurate but even more changes.

ll based on what I have been told - could be completely wrong. But at the end of the day it makes the most sense.

Still believe the MP4 is the best buy on the market - it's silly what the competitors are charging and offering in comparison ... just my .02
 

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I disagree with Andy and Champagne...

But we will see in Geneva :)

Its 12C MY15. Simple as that. There is no need for a "S" or "GT3"
 

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I disagree with Andy and Champagne...

But we will see in Geneva :)

Its 12C MY15. Simple as that. There is no need for a "S" or "GT3"
You sharing pm's with Citylad again :D

I can't think of an exotic car maker that hasn't milked the end of a model with variants.

Agree we will see :)
 

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Lol, no... Maybe there is more than one new car. But I have many reasons to believe the main release is a my15 with 650hp.
 

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Lol, no... Maybe there is more than one new car. But I have many reasons to believe the main release is a my15 with 650hp.
Lets just say that whatever it is,it will be the Quickest A to B car on the planet,that isn't a limited production run ,that I think I can say is pretty much fact :cool:
 
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