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Ferrari Will Unveil LaFerrari Successor In 2024, Per Allegedly Leaked Document

BY SEBASTIEN BELL October 24, 2022
Ferrari may build a total of 828 units of its, as-yet unnamed, upcoming supercar if a recent table posted to the Auto Pareri forum and shared with us by Mahmud Maha is to be believed. The car, apparently codenamed the F250, is set to be unveiled in October 2024, according to the document.
It shows that the standard car will be unveiled on that date, and that Ferrari will build just 599 of them. The Italian supercar maker has long based its production figures on how many units it believes it can sell minus one, in order to maintain its exclusivity and cache.
Per the document, a track-only XX version of the car will be unveiled in July 2026. Production of that model will be substantially more limited, and the automaker will build just 30. Launched in 2005, the XX program gives Ferrari’s best clients access to track days where they can drive the purist version of its latest supercars at special events all over the world.
Finally, the spider (or convertible) version of the car will be unveiled a year later, in October 2027. Ferrari will make 199 of those, to bring the total across all models up to 828 examples of the supercar.

The purported document further lays out the testing schedule for the F250 and claims that the test program for the test mule (mulotipi) started in July of this year. We saw a Ferrari hypercar testing before then, but that may have been the Le Mans racer, not this road car.
The paper adds that the prototype will start testing in February, while pre-production models are set to start arriving in January and March 2024. Although it’s hard to be sure if this is a real internal document or not, we do know that Ferrari is working on a future supercar.
According to a presentation about its future business plan, the automaker is planning a range-topping supercar that will have technology transferred from Formula 1 and its Le Mans Hypercar program.

Indeed, the head of Ferrari’s LMH program recently told Autocar that its new racecar is “a good laboratory” and that his “staff has ideas that we can put on the car that will be good for the future [road cars].”
That and the business plan would suggest that the upcoming supercar will be powered by a hybrid powertrain. Unfortunately, we may have to wait until October 2024 to find out for sure.
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so it won't be V12 ?


828 means probably around 600 Coupes 200 Aperta and 28 specials .... not a lot of spiders
 
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Then a hyper-car is defined by the fact that it is the fastest car in the McLaren product range and the driver sits in the middle?

I think you see my point. This is a simple commercial for the Speedtail and does not answer my question.

I claim that Michaelj is right in his statement and that in the meanwhile the term "hyper-car" has become extremely stressed in the world of supercars.
 

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Then a hyper-car is defined by the fact that it is the fastest car in the McLaren product range and the driver sits in the middle?

I think you see my point. This is a simple commercial for the Speedtail and does not answer my question.

I claim that Michaelj is right in his statement and that in the meanwhile the term "hyper-car" has become extremely stressed in the world of supercars.
I couldn't careless if it "does not answer my question".

That's MY ANSWER. This isn't a debate.

And if you don't know the difference between a McLaren Artura and a McLaren Speedtail then you're clueless.

So forget out Ferrari. Maybe visit their website instead?

Don't waste my time.🤦

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I couldn't careless if it "does not answer my question".

That's MY ANSWER. This isn't a debate.

And if you don't know the difference between a McLaren Artura and a McLaren Speedtail then you're clueless.

So forget out Ferrari. Maybe visit their website instead?

Don't waste my time.🤦

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Right. One man's hypercar is another man's yawn. The exact definition is utterly meaningless.
 

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I couldn't careless if it "does not answer my question".

That's MY ANSWER. This isn't a debate.

And if you don't know the difference between a McLaren Artura and a McLaren Speedtail then you're clueless.

So forget out Ferrari. Maybe visit their website instead?

Don't waste my time.🤦

(Typography mistake edited.)
What kind of idiot are you? Not having time and still pushing such insignificant shit through the Internet is kind of stupid.
 

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That’s what Ferrari says about itself. Go read their own roadmap. Those are “icons”. Whatever. This new LaFerrari successor is leaving all the best things to another product segment the Icona line.
well I see a certain logic why Monza and Daytona are not really Hypercars … they are not really innovative (same goes for all the Aventador body kits) … both are really cool but don’t have any new tech … Real Hypercars (Chiron/Divo, AMG ONE, Valkyrie) always had quiet some new tech and also set benchmarks (fastest/ fastest around track / fastest accelerating etc) … the Icona cars clearly don’t set these benchmarks … btw by this standard the SF90 is more hypercar than any of them - but that just shows how these definitions became way less intuitive with supercars now starting to have similar or near similar performance numbers since the 720s introduction.
 

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well I see a certain logic why Monza and Daytona are not really Hypercars … they are not really innovative (same goes for all the Aventador body kits) … both are really cool but don’t have any new tech … Real Hypercars (Chiron/Divo, AMG ONE, Valkyrie) always had quiet some new tech and also set benchmarks (fastest/ fastest around track / fastest accelerating etc) … the Icona cars clearly don’t set these benchmarks … btw by this standard the SF90 is more hypercar than any of them - but that just shows how these definitions became way less intuitive with supercars now starting to have similar or near similar performance numbers since the 720s introduction.
As part of its Ultimate Series, McLaren calls the Senna a hypercar, the Speedtail a hyper GT and the Elva a roadster supercar, the 765LT is called a supercar, the P1 "...the first hybrid supercar in the world". Marketing is Creative. I think you're getting to the point: the boundaries are merging. Price? Power? Innovation? Quantity? Performance? Also the F40 was considered a supercar in its day, its career in today, its performance characteristics adapted to today's standards, and the F40 would be a hypercar. What comes after the hypercar? Maybe McLaren was a little ahead of the times and the new generation of hypercars will mutate into the ultimate cars. Who knows. The media, which are always looking for new superlatives anyway, have again their own designations for all these vehicles. A wise man here in the forum wrote: The exact definition of "hypercar" is completely meaningless. From that point of view, I have at least two hypercars in my garage, I'm happy. And that's probably how the owners of these unique Ferraris feel.

In this regards the circle closes and I agree with Michael: the term "hyper-car" has become quite common and extremely stressed in the world of supercars.
 

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As part of its Ultimate Series, McLaren calls the Senna a hypercar, the Speedtail a hyper GT and the Elva a roadster supercar, the 765LT is called a supercar, the P1 "...the first hybrid supercar in the world". Marketing is Creative. I think you're getting to the point: the boundaries are merging. Price? Power? Innovation? Quantity? Performance? Also the F40 was considered a supercar in its day, its career in today, its performance characteristics adapted to today's standards, and the F40 would be a hypercar. What comes after the hypercar? Maybe McLaren was a little ahead of the times and the new generation of hypercars will mutate into the ultimate cars. Who knows. The media, which are always looking for new superlatives anyway, have again their own designations for all these vehicles. A wise man here in the forum wrote: The exact definition of "hypercar" is completely meaningless. From that point of view, I have at least two hypercars in my garage, I'm happy. And that's probably how the owners of these unique Ferraris feel.

In this regards the circle closes and I agree with Michael: the term "hyper-car" has become quite common and extremely stressed in the world of supercars.
Not sure if they coined the term it but Koenigsegg made the first megacar (lol) with the Koenigsegg One:1 according to them. Marketing is creative like you were saying. Soon some marketing guy will come up with naming their product an "Ultra" car.

The 1,360 PS power output is the equivalent of one megawatt, which Koenigsegg claims make the One:1 the 'world's first megacar'
 
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