[gallardo62]

as we know (or it seems to me) iris is not functionnal

apparently i have to receive my car in about three weeks

so for the time being

i don't kwow :

- if iris will be functionnal in october ?
- what is operational now ?
- will i have to pay the option at the initial delivery (or %)
- what's the story about the "3 months delay but with iris" or "now without " ?

because in july (as i understood, i would have the car with snow tires...) i request to displace delivery in february 2012 (i am from north of france, so the weaver is as shiny as in Uk..) the dealer told me it was impossible

what's the point ?

there is some communication problem between dealers an manufacturer ... (because it s not the first time)

 

[Owl]

I guess we have the same dealer, and therefore the same problem: no clear answer, and the feeling that what they tell you is not something they know, but something they find suitable to keep you quiet. My advice: send an e-mail directly to the factory. In my experience, they reply quickly, or call you back, and their reply is usually in full contradiction with what the dealer told you.

 

[gallardo62]

i don't want to annoy christian marti (again)

another contact ?

 

[andy c]

as we know (or it seems to me) iris is not functionnal

apparently i have to receive my car in about three weeks

so for the time being

i don't kwow :

- if iris will be functionnal in october ?
- what is operational now ?
- will i have to pay the option at the initial delivery (or %)
- what's the story about the "3 months delay but with iris" or "now without " ?

because in july (as i understood, i would have the car with snow tires...) i request to displace delivery in february 2012 (i am from north of france, so the weaver is as shiny as in Uk..) the dealer told me it was impossible

what's the point ?

there is some communication problem between dealers an manufacturer ... (because it s not the first time)

There is a good chance iris will be ready for you,if not you will get a discount ,then have it fitted free later on.At the moment we are missing bluetooth and nav,the radio is working and you can use ipod,but these are not up to the standard that they will be.
As regards 3 months or now,what was meant was if the car is not complete as per contract then it would not be reasonable for you to take the unfinished car without a discount,and also it should be your choice if you want to cancel if you do not want to take a complete car.
regarding snow tyres,if you need them ,then you need them,but you also need standard tyres at some time also,so im not sure how that is a problem other than timing on when the car is delivered.
Cristian martii is there for you gallardo,thats his job,and he seems good at it,so bug away!!

 

[zippycar]

I've heard that IRIS is still months away from being complete.

Is it really an issue if you get a £5000 option for nothing?

Only if it never works, but I can't see that happening

 

[gallardo62]

for the snow tires : i tried some british humor (but i realize that i have to practice a little bit more )

anyway thanks for the precisions !
mail to CMarti

 

[andy c]

I've heard that IRIS is still months away from being complete.

Is it really an issue if you get a £5000 option for nothing?

Only if it never works, but I can't see that happening

Wonder if anyone ordered an early car without iris,that would be annoying

 

[gallardo62]

I've heard that IRIS is still months away from being complete.

Is it really an issue if you get a £5000 option for nothing?

Only if it never works, but I can't see that happening

the problem is to have answer to questions from mcl(it 's not the first theme)

and yes i love mclaren but it's still a problem to take delivery of a modern supercar at 240 000 € without a gps, and to pay 6500 € for that. (untill i kwow the answer of the manufacturer in term of commercial effort, at first for the delay (i miss several events this year, and what can i do with a 600hp track day car in winter?))

 

[andy c]

the problem is to have answer to questions from mcl(it 's not the first theme)

and yes i love mclaren but it's still a problem to take delivery of a modern supercar at 240 000 € without a gps, and to pay 6500 € for that. (untill i kwow the answer of the manufacturer in term of commercial effort, at first for the delay (i miss several events this year, and what can i do with a 600hp track day car in winter?))

Answer to your question,use it everyday,it will still be more capable than any other car ,unless there are more than a few cm of snow on the road.I promise i will be,im thinking in winter mode with the tc and suspension compliance it should be superb,its just the ground clearance that will be a problem.ive used my turbo all the winter and i dont see any difference here,afterall the 4wd is for getting the power down,not for getting you out of a snowdrift.
Any thoughts from anyone else??

 

[Squirrel]

Answer to your question,use it everyday,it will still be more capable than any other car ,unless there are more than a few cm of snow on the road.I promise i will be,im thinking in winter mode with the tc and suspension compliance it should be superb,its just the ground clearance that will be a problem.ive used my turbo all the winter and i dont see any difference here,afterall the 4wd is for getting the power down,not for getting you out of a snowdrift.
Any thoughts from anyone else??

I guarantee that unless you have proper winter / snow tyres you'll be going nowhere in the snow! My 997T was OK but my 2WD M3 is impossible in anything other than the lightest dusting. Last year I couldn't even get it off the drive for 2 weeks!

 

[6th element]

Answer to your question,use it everyday,it will still be more capable than any other car ,unless there are more than a few cm of snow on the road.I promise i will be,im thinking in winter mode with the tc and suspension compliance it should be superb,its just the ground clearance that will be a problem.ive used my turbo all the winter and i dont see any difference here,afterall the 4wd is for getting the power down,not for getting you out of a snowdrift.
Any thoughts from anyone else??

I'm very interested to find out, since it will be cold weather for sure by the time I take delivery. I won't take the car out if there is any snow on the road, but if the roads are clear and I know the route doesn't have potholes, I plan to use the car. However, I think the bigger concern is the effectiveness of the tire compound in cold temps. Not sure what they are rated for.

 

[Osiris_x11]

Solution: studded tires and/or tire-chains (alloy -or- rubber)...

 

[SSO]

The situation with IRIS is perplexing. Not sure why they are having so many problems with a unit that actually does less than a $500 iPad.

 

[Squirrel]

The situation with IRIS is perplexing. Not sure why they are having so many problems with a unit that actually does less than a $500 iPad.

As I understand it McLaren are developing the Iris interface from scratch - It needs to rival Apple's GUI or BMW's iDrive in terms of ease of use and elegance. Maybe they under-estimated the development time and effort required? Let's not forget that manufacturers like Apple and BMW have very deep pockets and have developed their interfaces over many, many years... McLaren are using third party developers for Iris software and I am told that their first 'partner' fell short of the required standard so they were forced to switch supplier at a very late (and disruptive) stage. Apparently the Japanese Tsunami adversely also impacted on the program too...

The good news is that the in-car hardware is very good and from the elements of the system that do work it is clear that there is great potential for the interface to be elegant, intuitive and feature rich.

With the benefit of hindsight would I rather have the car now without Iris or wait another 3 months for the complete finished package? Without any shadow of doubt I would take the car now.

It's awesome!

 

[MP412C]

I had heard that the original supplier of Iris went out of business so they are effectively starting from scratch with a new supplier. This will take time to get the quality right and there will need to be a lot of testing etc to prove it is reliable before customers get to see it.

 

[bruce]

I was told by Mclaren London that the original supplier in Japan and the suppliers were affected by the earthquake a new supplier was sourced in the States and I was told we would have the Iris by end of year

 

[6th element]

There is NO WAY that IRIS will be as user friendly and intuitive ad iPad or any Apple O/S, so don't expect that or you will be severely disappointed. That is, unless Apple is the new supplier, which they aren't.

 

[483hp]

Too bad. I was hoping the McLaren branded iPods were foreshadowing the new supplier.

 

[HyperMac954]

I'm at Apple, and I can tell you that they aren't. But if any McLaren employees are reading this, and want an in, you know how to reach me!

On a sidenote, the company in Seattle now doing the IRIS is Innovative Converged Devices. You may recall a 12C reportedly crashing in Seattle a few months back - that's their VP car.

 

[AugustWest]

There is NO WAY that IRIS will be as user friendly and intuitive ad iPad or any Apple O/S, so don't expect that or you will be severely disappointed. That is, unless Apple is the new supplier, which they aren't.

Heck - part of the reason it can't be appley is that Apple sues everyone that even comes close to what they consider proprietary. Like, say, the shape of tablets http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/09/apple-wins-again-in-germany-galaxy-tab.html.

I guess we should be glad we can still buy things that are white!