[andy c]

Yes,the sun is out in yorkshire today,so this isnt a problem that will affect me much.
It was noted a few months ago that a two tone dash does reflect alot in the large windscreen on bright days,thankfully i went for the alcantara option which stops this completley,but with orange stitching!! the stitching i like as it gives the interior some definiton,but on days like today it reflects in my sight line (ok im short).This might become an iritation if you live permanently in the sun,or are tall(usually these two dont go together) or you can do like im doing and use it as a headsup to aim at things!!!

 

[roundincircles]

Andy, It's sunny down south as well today.


Anyway just been reading the MP12 reports on Piston Heads which is some cases are pretty damning unless you stand back and measure comments against peoples judgement. In other words some owners don't accept that as early adopters that the gremlins are acceptable. It seems McLaren's inability to put time frames on solutions is at the crux of some discontent whilst others are just fed up.

What is your take on the cars behaviour and the back up?

All seem to laud the dynamics and on road performance, fit and finish but not the electrical/dash readout issues.

 

[andy c]

Andy, It's sunny down south as well today.


Anyway just been reading the MP12 reports on Piston Heads which is some cases are pretty damning unless you stand back and measure comments against peoples judgement. In other words some owners don't accept that as early adopters that the gremlins are acceptable. It seems McLaren's inability to put time frames on solutions is at the crux of some discontent whilst others are just fed up.

What is your take on the cars behaviour and the back up?

All seem to laud the dynamics and on road performance, fit and finish but not the electrical/dash readout issues.

I look at it from the point of view that many of the first adopters are there because they are buyers of many supercars and are not really just Mclaren fans,which is ok,but many of these will just move on to the next new car,whatever that might be.
They have a point ,and this would have been nice not to have happened,but in the end Mclaren will have a following just like porsche and ferrari,and they have to get their customers from somewhere,as for my own opinion ,all the issues are liveable,and if it was to be a stripped out racer like it performance is,then these problems wouldnt exsist anyway!!
Time will tell,and Mclaren has the money to deal with it,i would be worried if i was getting this performance from a small company with little backup,i would be waiting for something to break

 

[bruce]

Andy the cars are rock solid Mine has done 700 miles now with 200 at around 150mph on a banked track> The issues are software based and these are being addressed I am sure. I am sure on reflection Mclaren would launch this amazing product differently with the benefit of hindsight.

Some will be impatient and I for one am a pretty intolerant type but once driven this car that apparently has no emotion (rubbish) gets under your skin. Sadly it is not photogenic but in the flesh it is drop dead gorgeous.

I am quite used to driving Porkers,Lambos and Ferrari in Europe where people show their enthusiasm as you park or drive by however in England this is not usually the case. Now with the 12c the Brits are totally bonkers ,walk into the road with cameras ,open car windows and hang out of sunroofs photographing. I dont think this is patriotism cos half dont know what a Mclaren is,it may be my uncanny look a like with David Beckham OR it could be THAT THE CAR IS STUNNING

 

[andy c]

Andy the cars are rock solid Mine has done 700 miles now with 200 at around 150mph on a banked track> The issues are software based and these are being addressed I am sure. I am sure on reflection Mclaren would launch this amazing product differently with the benefit of hindsight.

Some will be impatient and I for one am a pretty intolerant type but once driven this car that apparently has no emotion (rubbish) gets under your skin. Sadly it is not photogenic but in the flesh it is drop dead gorgeous.

I am quite used to driving Porkers,Lambos and Ferrari in Europe where people show their enthusiasm as you park or drive by however in England this is not usually the case. Now with the 12c the Brits are totally bonkers ,walk into the road with cameras ,open car windows and hang out of sunroofs photographing. I dont think this is patriotism cos half dont know what a Mclaren is,it may be my uncanny look a like with David Beckham OR it could be THAT THE CAR IS STUNNING

Yes Bruce i totally agree,my post was aimed at other owners who write on other forums.
Im glad you managed to stick to the running in,by not going over 150Mph in the first 600 miles,you really must have had to hold it back alittle!!!! For you and me its more likley to be david beckhams Dad that we look like,uncanny how people come up to the car in morrisions and take pictures while your sat in it,started to pretend im on the phone,because i know they are not interested in me!!

 

[GFWilliams]

Polarised sunglasses should totally cut out the reflections

 

[roundincircles]

Andy. Now come on, if you do the weekly shop at Morrisons people will stare and take pics, go for a shop at Harrods and you will just get clamped!!!

LOL MP12 at Morrisons, must cost more in petrol than the savings made on the Shredded Wheat and Branston Pickle.

OK you go to Morrisons in Exeter now you have an MP12.

 

[andy c]

Andy. Now come on, if you do the weekly shop at Morrisons people will stare and take pics, go for a shop at Harrods and you will just get clamped!!!

LOL MP12 at Morrisons, must cost more in petrol than the savings made on the Shredded Wheat and Branston Pickle.

OK you go to Morrisons in Exeter now you have an MP12.

just bits and pieces,parking spaces for the elderly are bigger at waitrose,Is there a morrisons at Exeter,thought that was liddle???

 

[andy c]

Polarised sunglasses should totally cut out the reflections

Thanks,you should know,i was thinking of a kevin and tracy sunstrip

 

[andy c]

Looks like a pretty dumb thread,in my defense its very rare to wear sunglasses in the north,sorry!!!!!!!!!!!
yes,i did see your post August!!

 

[AugustWest]

Had several Aston clients spec very light dashboards in their cars - the polarized glasses helped a lot - but I tried pretty hard to keep them from doing it. Aston eventually required owners to sign off if they ordered light leather on the upper dash. In once instance, the owner had to replace white leather with Navy blue (the other hue in her two-tone) in order to be able to live with it.

I know it's boring - but it's why I prefer all-black interiors (not that I could order that in my 12C, tho!)...

I had posted regarding the polarized glasses, but then saw GFWilliams' post and didn't want to be redundant...

 

[Mclaren-tech]

3M make a film called crystalline, which is basically a clear window film to reduce the solar energy coming through the glass. I started to install it to protect dashes and interiors on all exotic cars, a by product that know one told me was the reduction in dash glare in the windows.

It was good enough to put on my own car...sun glare and heat reduction is great.
I'm sure there are other brands around, just dont know if they are available north of Watford !!

 

[andy c]

Maybe not such a dumb thread then,if it helps other people speccing,joking aside,you are probably right about there being no call for it above Watford!!
would gather dust in your stockroom,definatley no more than 1 ,would it have a sell by date after 1976 (a good summer that year)

 

[falb]

Yes,the sun is out in yorkshire today,so this isnt a problem that will affect me much.
It was noted a few months ago that a two tone dash does reflect alot in the large windscreen on bright days,thankfully i went for the alcantara option which stops this completley,but with orange stitching!! the stitching i like as it gives the interior some definiton,but on days like today it reflects in my sight line (ok im short).This might become an iritation if you live permanently in the sun,or are tall(usually these two dont go together) or you can do like im doing and use it as a headsup to aim at things!!!

Andy, you just said that sunny climates dont usually have tall people!? Funny. I'm 6 foot and live in a bright sunny climate, therefor 6 foot is short.

I don't get why people would want a light color inside. I have a car with creme carpet and it showed dirt day one, I hate it. The glare also goes for shiny armor all leather, armor all should be banned, bad idea. I am trying to spec space fabric with alcantara and orange stiching. Alcantara is a great material for a car.

 

[SSO]

Believe this is the film you can use:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/...E3E02LECFTDQ8KB7_nid=RW0ZMH842Pbe0H01CMQK62gl

 

[AugustWest]

ArmorAll is the worst thing you can put on anything. Not only is it greasy (and therefore going to attract dust and get on clothes, etc.), but it actually dries things out.

It's like Carmex - if you start to use it and stop, the results are going to be disasterous - it creates its own addiction; the more you use it, the more you HAVE to use it to keep things from drying out and splitting (and turning milky-white in the process)... It's horrible for plastic, leather, rubber - pretty much anything. It's snake oil of the worst sort.

This, of course, is the cue for a fellow forumite to point out that they work for Armor-All (or Carmex)...

 

[Mclaren-tech]

It's snake oil of the worst sort.

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I could not have put it better myself

 

[gallardo62]

i d loved to be dazzled in my mp4... if i have had mine.... no doubt