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F1 plans immediate reduction in new budget cap, reveals Brawn

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Ross Brawn has revealed Formula 1 is planning to reduce the amount teams can spend under the new budget cap by $30m from the original figure of $175m, as the sport looks to cut costs in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic.
A cost cap of $175m was set to introduced in 2021 but in light of the F1 season having been delayed because of the virus outbreak and the subsequent economic squeeze on the sport and the teams, Brawn says the new annual spending cap will be set at $145m. The aim is to create a glidepath thereafter, further reducing teams' annual spending, once final talks with the teams have been concluded.
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Brawn, F1's managing director of motorsport, held talks on Monday with F1 CEO Chase Carey and the FIA over the future and sustainability of the sport, and soon after spoke to Sky Sports F1, saying: “The message is clear – we’ve got to cut costs – and therefore there’s another big step in the reduction of the cost cap.”

“We started at $175m, that was a long battle to get it there. With the current crisis we’re now going to start at $145m and the discussion really is how much further we can drive [it down] over the next few years.”
With the situation we have now, economic sustainability is the priority, and I think that counts as much for the big teams as it does for the small teams
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“Today’s meeting was [between the] FIA and Formula 1… and the details will be going out to the teams in the next few days,” said Brawn. “There’s been a lot of consultation and I think we’re now we’re at the very final stages. It’ll all become clear shortly.”
Ferrari were opposed to such a strict cost cap of $175m while other teams such as McLaren were supportive of reducing that figure further, but the coronavirus pandemic has put pressure on F1 and all the teams to reconsider how much they are spending.
“The initial objectives [of the budget cap] were a more competitive field and I think with the situation we have now, economic sustainability is the priority, and I think that counts as much for the big teams as it does for the small teams.”
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The resource gap between the top teams like Mercedes and Ferrari, and midfield outfits such as McLaren and Racing Point will be further shrunk by an increase in prize money for midfielders, added Brawn.
“There’s going to be a much more equitable prize fund in the new agreement. The midfield teams are going to be much better off in terms of their proportion of prize money. So it’s being balanced in every direction," he said.
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“We’re reducing the amount of money that can be spent in Formula 1 and improving the distribution of the prize fund more evenly amongst the teams. A good midfield team should be able to score podiums, maybe a win, and it should make a small profit.
“And if we can achieve that then we’ve got a very sustainable future
 

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Brawn, Liberty Media, FIA are attempting to convince all teams to stay in F1. Lower performing teams being offered a larger share of prize and commercial money together with budget expenditure caps. This to achieve ‘closer racing’.

While Mercedes, Ferrari, are being told the objective is not to change their WCC winning positions going forward but to make it look like the other teams have a race win chance, occasionally .... ;)
 

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Sebastian Vettel to leave Ferrari at end of Formula 1 season

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Sebastian Vettel

Vettel won four F1 world titles with Red Bull between 2010 and 2013
Sebastian Vettel is to leave Ferrari at the end of the year after contract talks between the two broke down with no agreement.
The move, which is expected to be officially announced imminently, throws the future of the 32-year-old four-time world champion into doubt.
Spaniard Carlos Sainz, currently a McLaren driver, is among those who have been linked to Vettel's seat.


If Sainz leaves McLaren, one option for the team is Renault's Daniel Ricciardo.
The Australian had serious talks with McLaren in 2018 when he was weighing up whether to leave Red Bull, before finally deciding to move to Renault.
Ricciardo is known to be unsettled at the French team and has talked about moving on.
Vettel could also be an option for McLaren, if he felt he was prepared to move to a team that was going through a restructuring process.
If not, the options for the 32-year-old to continue in F1 are bleak.
Lewis Hamilton, who is also out of contract at the end of the season, has repeatedly signalled his intention to stay at Mercedes, who are not believed to be considering a move for Vettel.
And Red Bull, where Vettel won his four world titles, have said that they would not partner their star driver Max Verstappen with another top-line driver - nor is Vettel likely to be interested in partnering the Dutchman.
Ferrari's other options are Ricciardo or Italian Antonio Giovinazzi, who races for the affiliated Alfa Romeo team.
Hamilton is not considered to be a serious possibility.
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Vettel wanted to emulate his hero Michael Schumacher, who won five of his seven F1 world titles with Ferrari between 2000 and 2004A remarkable fall from grace
Vettel's departure from Ferrari signals an ignominious end to his career at the Italian team, who he joined in 2015 with the aim of following in the footsteps of his childhood hero Michael Schumacher by winning the title with them
Vettel said as recently as last month that his intention was to stay with Ferrari beyond the end of his contract this season.
But talks have broken down after Vettel felt unable to accept the offer Ferrari made to him to stay alongside Charles Leclerc, who last winter signed until the end of 2024.
The exact nature of the disagreement that led to the failure of the talks is not clear, but Ferrari are reported to have offered Vettel a vastly reduced salary and a shorter contract than he desired.
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Vettel had made a series of unforced errors during last season, including crashing into a backmarker whilst returning to the circuit after spinning at Ferrari's home race at Monza
Vettel had been Ferrari's number one driver since 2015, when he replaced Fernando Alonso after the Spaniard negotiated an exit from the team at the end of 2014 having lost faith they could ever provide the circumstances in which he would win the world title.
Vettel came closest to winning the championship with the team in 2017 and 2018, when Ferrari had a faster car than Mercedes for much of both seasons but their challenge faltered after a series of mistakes from driver and team.
That led to the beginning of a loss of faith between the two parties and he lost his position in the team for good with the arrival of Charles Leclerc last season.
The Monegasque was immediately a threat to Vettel, who started 2019 as the designated number one, and Leclerc ended the season having out-scored his senior team-mate on every metric - wins, poles, points and average qualifying pace.
The tension between the two also led to a series of flash points culminating in a crash at the penultimate race of the season in Brazil.
Vettel now heads into his final season with the team - assuming the 2020 championship is able to start amid the coronavirus crisis - knowing he has lost his status and facing an uncomfortable season in a team whose focus will inevitably be on their rising young star.

 

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Sainz to inform McLaren he's departing for Ferrari - report
Carlos Sainz is poised to anger McLaren by informing them he will leave and replace Sebastian Vettel at Ferrari in 2021, Motorsport Italia claims.
Early on Tuesday, growing speculation was confirmed when the Italian team announced a mutual decision had been made not to renew the four-time world champion's contract beyond this year.
Then rumours began that Ferrari had already signed a new driver to partner Charles Leclerc from next season and that could be made official as early as this week.
Well, now the cat may have been let out of the bag with Motorsport Italia's Franco Nugnes reporting Sainz is set to be confirmed within the next 48 hours, after agreeing a basic contract with only some small details left to be resolved.
One of them, he writes, is the Spaniard informing McLaren CEO Zak Brown of his decision to leave at the end of the year.


After weeks of criticising Ferrari on their stance over F1's budget cap, Nugnes predicts Brown "will not take well" Sainz's departure, particularly as McLaren had reportedly offered a two-year extension until the end of 2022.
While the second-generation driver proved his talent with a strong 2019, finishing sixth in the Constructors' standings, it is suggested the main motivation for signing Sainz is money, as Ferrari will save 20m Euros compared to re-signing Vettel.
It is also for that same reason why Ferrari looked past Renault's Daniel Ricciardo, despite being arguably a better option to join Leclerc at Maranello.
Ultimately, we'll have to wait and see if this report is true but, adding the other speculation to this, it certainly appears credible

 

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If Sainz has already decided to leave McLaren and join the Ferrari drama queens, let's hope that in every one of this year's races Lando kicks his butt.
 

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Yes and if Vettel joins McLaren/Seidel .... ?
Many might disagree, but I have always thought that Vettel was overrated. I'd rather have Ricciardo, but only if he swore on a Bible never again to drink out of shoe - what a crude, disgusting, ape-like thing to do. The only thing worse in F1 is those horrific pink cars.
Another possibility might be Bottas or George Russell. Assuming that Hamilton signs on for another 3+ years, and assuming that Merc stay as a constructor, I can see them either ditching Bottas in favour of Russell or keeping Bottas but letting Russell switch from one Merc customer to another.
There is also loose talk about Alonso's coming back after two years away from F1. Not sure whether I would welcome him back to McLaren for a third stint. Alonso's a team player, but only so long as the whole team is dedicated to him.
 

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Agreed given a Sainz departure would like to see Russell at McLaren for 2022 ..
Think best for Vettel to not drag out the retirement beyond this broken season.
 

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Formula 1: Ferrari to sign Carlos Sainz as Daniel Ricciardo set for McLaren

By Andrew Benson
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Daniel Ricciardo and Carlos Sainz

Ricciardo and Sainz have both driven for Toro Rosso and Renault in recent seasons
Carlos Sainz is poised to replace Sebastian Vettel at Ferrari with Daniel Ricciardo set to take the Spaniard's seat at McLaren.
Talks to seal the two moves are ongoing and no final agreements have been reached, but they are expected to be concluded and announced this week.
McLaren have been chasing Ricciardo for some time and his signing is a coup.

But they must release Sainz from his contractual obligations before signing the Australian.
Sainz had been in negotiations to stay with McLaren beyond 2020 but the appeal of joining a top team has convinced him to move.
The teams and drivers have been in negotiations for some time and talks are understood to be in their final stages.
The domino effect in the driver market was triggered when negotiations over a new contract between Ferrari and Vettel failed.
Ferrari announced on Tuesday that the German four-time world champion would be leaving the team at the end of the season, which is currently on ice as a result of the coronavirus crisis.
Ferrari have identified Sainz as the ideal support driver for Charles Leclerc, whose starring performances in his first season with the team last year undermined Vettel's status and precipitated his departure when he was not prepared to accept diminished contractual terms.
Ferrari will envisage Sainz in the type of back-up role Valtteri Bottas plays to Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes - quick enough to be close to him and engage in battle with other front-runners but not the team leader.
Sainz, who previously drove for Toro Rosso and Renault before moving to McLaren last year, is likely to view the move as an opportunity to prove himself as a top-line driver.
He excelled in his first season with McLaren last year and his strong race performances have earned him the call-up from Ferrari.
He's flown before: Ricciardo has taken seven career wins so far

What about Ricciardo?
Signing Ricciardo is a major boost for McLaren, who last year made impressive progress back to fourth in the championship after a dismal few years falling down the grid.
The Australian came close to joining them in 2019 when he left Red Bull, but in the end chose Renault because they were more competitive at the time.
But the two teams' fortunes diverged last year, with McLaren jumping up the grid and Renault's progress back towards the top stalling; in fact they fell behind McLaren to finish fifth in the championship.
Ricciardo has now decided that McLaren are a better bet for the future - a decision partly influenced by their switch to Mercedes engines for the 2021 season.
That is one of a number of significant decisions made by their new team principal Andreas Seidl, who has impressed with his no-nonsense approach since joining the team in May last year.
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Sainz scored McLaren's best result for seven years last season with third in Brazil
Who will replace Ricciardo?
Ricciardo's departure leaves a space at Renault alongside Frenchman Esteban Ocon, assuming the car manufacturer stays in F1 next year.
Renault are said to be keen to promote one of their young drivers to the role but Vettel and double world champion Fernando Alonso have been mentioned as possible contenders.
Alonso said at the end of last year that he would consider a comeback to F1 after two years out, but he will have to weigh up whether he believes Renault will give him the competitive car he says he wants.
But he has fond memories of the team, having won both his world titles with them in 2005-6. He also returned there for a two-year period in 2008-9 after his move to McLaren turned sour in a tumultuous year alongside Lewis Hamilton in 2007 and before moving to Ferrari.
He has said he views the new regulations being planned for F1 as a chance for the field to be more competitive.
But these have now been delayed a year until 2022 as part of a package of changes to cut costs because of falling revenues from the truncated 2020 season.
That means Alonso - who turns 39 this July - would have to be prepared for a 2021 season likely in the upper midfield and it remains to be seen if he wants to go through that again after his five years in an uncompetitive McLaren from 2015-18.
 

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Formula 1: Ferrari to sign Carlos Sainz as Daniel Ricciardo set for McLaren

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Daniel Ricciardo and Carlos Sainz

Ricciardo and Sainz have both driven for Toro Rosso and Renault in recent seasons
Carlos Sainz is poised to replace Sebastian Vettel at Ferrari with Daniel Ricciardo set to take the Spaniard's seat at McLaren.
Talks to seal the two moves are ongoing and no final agreements have been reached, but they are expected to be concluded and announced this week.
McLaren have been chasing Ricciardo for some time and his signing is a coup.

But they must release Sainz from his contractual obligations before signing the Australian.
Sainz had been in negotiations to stay with McLaren beyond 2020 but the appeal of joining a top team has convinced him to move.
The teams and drivers have been in negotiations for some time and talks are understood to be in their final stages.
The domino effect in the driver market was triggered when negotiations over a new contract between Ferrari and Vettel failed.
Ferrari announced on Tuesday that the German four-time world champion would be leaving the team at the end of the season, which is currently on ice as a result of the coronavirus crisis.
Ferrari have identified Sainz as the ideal support driver for Charles Leclerc, whose starring performances in his first season with the team last year undermined Vettel's status and precipitated his departure when he was not prepared to accept diminished contractual terms.
Ferrari will envisage Sainz in the type of back-up role Valtteri Bottas plays to Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes - quick enough to be close to him and engage in battle with other front-runners but not the team leader.
Sainz, who previously drove for Toro Rosso and Renault before moving to McLaren last year, is likely to view the move as an opportunity to prove himself as a top-line driver.
He excelled in his first season with McLaren last year and his strong race performances have earned him the call-up from Ferrari.
He's flown before: Ricciardo has taken seven career wins so far

What about Ricciardo?
Signing Ricciardo is a major boost for McLaren, who last year made impressive progress back to fourth in the championship after a dismal few years falling down the grid.
The Australian came close to joining them in 2019 when he left Red Bull, but in the end chose Renault because they were more competitive at the time.
But the two teams' fortunes diverged last year, with McLaren jumping up the grid and Renault's progress back towards the top stalling; in fact they fell behind McLaren to finish fifth in the championship.
Ricciardo has now decided that McLaren are a better bet for the future - a decision partly influenced by their switch to Mercedes engines for the 2021 season.
That is one of a number of significant decisions made by their new team principal Andreas Seidl, who has impressed with his no-nonsense approach since joining the team in May last year.
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Sainz scored McLaren's best result for seven years last season with third in Brazil
Who will replace Ricciardo?
Ricciardo's departure leaves a space at Renault alongside Frenchman Esteban Ocon, assuming the car manufacturer stays in F1 next year.
Renault are said to be keen to promote one of their young drivers to the role but Vettel and double world champion Fernando Alonso have been mentioned as possible contenders.
Alonso said at the end of last year that he would consider a comeback to F1 after two years out, but he will have to weigh up whether he believes Renault will give him the competitive car he says he wants.
But he has fond memories of the team, having won both his world titles with them in 2005-6. He also returned there for a two-year period in 2008-9 after his move to McLaren turned sour in a tumultuous year alongside Lewis Hamilton in 2007 and before moving to Ferrari.
He has said he views the new regulations being planned for F1 as a chance for the field to be more competitive.
But these have now been delayed a year until 2022 as part of a package of changes to cut costs because of falling revenues from the truncated 2020 season.
That means Alonso - who turns 39 this July - would have to be prepared for a 2021 season likely in the upper midfield and it remains to be seen if he wants to go through that again after his five years in an uncompetitive McLaren from 2015-18.
DR at McLaren is the best case scenario for me as a fan. I'd love for this deal to get wrapped up soon.
 

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DR at McLaren is the best case scenario for me as a fan. I'd love for this deal to get wrapped up soon.
Yes will be interesting to see how it all plays out - suspect that Vettel may not race again for Ferrari, even if there are races held in 2020. Ferrari will get to choose Ricciardo or Sainz or .... McLaren will get to pick from who’s left.
 

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Ricciardo is going to McLaren, as per the latest news. I'm a big fan of his, so while I'm delighted he'll be joining McLaren at a time when Mercedes will again be their PU supplier, I'm also a little disappointed that he's not going to the team I expected he'd end up with. McLaren should be able to compete with the big dogs within the next two seasons.
 

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Ricciardo is going to McLaren, as per the latest news. I'm a big fan of his, so while I'm delighted he'll be joining McLaren at a time when Mercedes will again be their PU supplier, I'm also a little disappointed that he's not going to the team I expected he'd end up with. McLaren should be able to compete with the big dogs within the next two seasons.
Yes Sainz maybe the best choice as partner for a dominant Leclerc. Ricciardo in a Ferrari would be a target for an aggressive Verstappen, what fun! ;)
Hopefully the integration of the Mercedes PU into the McLaren chassis doesn’t take too long ...
 

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I wonder what Ferrari’s view of Sainz is. Obviously they like him but do they really see him as a #2 or another alpha that can win a title? There’s no way Carlos sees himself as a #2. If I recall correctly, at the end of the season, Carlos was rated the #3 driver in the behind Hamilton and Max but ahead of LeClerc. Now, that Vettel is out at Ferrari, I’ll take less joy in seeing the team implode. I am a big fan of both Charles and Carlos. I hope these two can get along.


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From Leclerc’s winning behavior in F2 and clear superiority over a fragile Vettel in 2019 F1 it seems to me that Ferrari is looking for the maturity of a Sainz - no crashes, follow team orders partner for Leclerc.
With regards to the #3 rating it had little to do with measured results, more to do with his driving behavior and squeezing the most out of a not too competitive McLaren ....
 

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Daniel Ricciardo, Renault, Yas Marina, 2019Official: Ricciardo to join McLaren for 2021 F1 season
2021 F1 season
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14th May 2020, 10:00 | Written by Keith Collantine

Daniel Ricciardo will join McLaren for the 2021 F1 season, the team has announced.

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The Renault driver will partner Lando Norris, taking the place of Carlos Sainz Jnr, who is expected to be confirmed as Ferrari’s replacement for Sebastian Vettel imminently.

“Signing Daniel is another step forward in our long-term plan and will bring an exciting new dimension to the team, alongside Lando,” said McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown. “This is good news for our team, partners and of course our fans.
“I also want to pay tribute to Carlos for the excellent job he has been doing for McLaren in helping our performance recovery plan. He is a real team player and we wish him well for his future beyond McLaren.”
Ricciardo’s move leaves a vacancy at Renault alongside Esteban Ocon for next year.
Ricciardo’s career progression
YearTeamChampionship position
2011HRT27th
2012Toro Rosso18th
2013Toro Rosso14th
2014Red Bull3rd
2015Red Bull8th
2016Red Bull3rd
2017Red Bull5th
2018Red Bull6th
2019Renault9th
2020Renault
2021McLaren
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Official: Ferrari confirm Sainz as Vettel’s replacement for 2021
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Carlos Sainz Jnr will join Ferrari in 2021 following Sebastian Vettel’s departure from the team.

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Ferrari confirmed Sainz has signed two-year contract to drive for the team.

“With five seasons already behind him, Carlos has proved to be very talented and has shown that he has the technical ability and the right attributes to make him an ideal fit with our family,” said team principal Mattia Binotto.
“We’ve embarked on a new cycle with the aim of getting back to the top in Formula 1. It will be a long journey, not without its difficulties, especially given the current financial and regulatory situation, which is undergoing a sudden change and will require this challenge to be tackled in a different way to the recent past.
“We believe that a driver pairing with the talent and personality of Charles and Carlos, the youngest in the past 50 years of the Scuderia, will be the best possible combination to help us reach the goals we have set ourselves
Sainz said he is “excited about my future with the team” but added “I still have an important year ahead with McLaren Racing and I’m really looking forward to going racing again with them this season.”

 

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I wonder what Ferrari’s view of Sainz is. Obviously they like him but do they really see him as a #2 or another alpha that can win a title? There’s no way Carlos sees himself as a #2. If I recall correctly, at the end of the season, Carlos was rated the #3 driver in the behind Hamilton and Max but ahead of LeClerc. Now, that Vettel is out at Ferrari, I’ll take less joy in seeing the team implode. I am a big fan of both Charles and Carlos. I hope these two can get along.
I don't know what line of guff Ferrari may have sold Sainz, but for ages they have had a #1 and a #2 driver, and they are infatuated with Leclerc to the point where whey were willing to let Vettel, who was extremely popular within the team, leave if not to force him out. In that context, regardless of what Ferrari's public statements will be or what they told Sainz, it is hard to believe that he will be given equal status to Leclerc's.
 
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