It's a brilliant idea, but that's what happens when you have the most money and can employ the largest number of engineers to work on new stuff that your competitors cannot afford to explore ().Mercedes’ innovative moving steering wheel will only be able to be used in 2020 with the device already effectively outlawed by the 2021 regulations.www.foxsports.com.au
1. This is not a spec series. Not only is Mercedes right to innovate, it is in the sport's best interest that it maintain the most innovative, fastest, most impressive racecars on the face of the Earth. The WCC is more important than the WDC.It's a brilliant idea, but that's what happens when you have the most money and can employ the largest number of engineers to work on new stuff that your competitors cannot afford to explore ().
I hope they ban it, as the world's worst fashion designer does not need yet another advantage over the other drivers.
As to whether they will ban it for this year, the problem is that it is against the spirit of the rules in several ways, but it may not be against the letter of any of them.
The one thing that I hope will be addressed is that, if McLaren's f-duct was banned on 'safety grounds' because they thought it would be unsafe for a driver to raise his arm slightly, this should be banned on safety grounds as well. How can it not increase risk if several times a lap the driver is occupied with pushing in or pulling out the steering wheel at the same time that he is meant to be steering with it?
a) It's a moving device within the sprung mass affecting the aerodynamics of the car by reducing its frontal area.1. This is not a spec series. Not only is Mercedes right to innovate, it is in the sport's best interest that it maintain the most innovative, fastest, most impressive racecars on the face of the Earth. The WCC is more important than the WDC.
2. Doesn't break any of the spirit of any rules as there simply are no rules governing this. Completely out of the box thinking.
3. Pilots use yokes all the time and are even inverted in some manuevers. Should be very easy to adapt to in the sim. It is not the same as F duct where drivers were taking hands off the wheel at Eau Rouge at 180 mph or moving their knee over to block a hole. FIA has already stated that it meets every safety grounds
a. Wheel is not considered a moveable aero device. This system is legal on these grounds as any argument you make would ban steering altogether. Having no steering would be really interesting for a racecar. Under the way you are describing, brakes themselves would be moveable aero devices since they change ride heighta) It's a moving device within the sprung mass affecting the aerodynamics of the car by reducing its frontal area.
b) It adjusts the suspension when the car is moving.
Both are not allowed. Merc's argument is not that it does not have these effects, as it obviously does, but rather that they are not its primary functions. Merc might be right in that, although - possibly - it is a question of how one assesses those functions. For example, the overall effects of the system may be 40% to extend tyre life, 30% to reducing straight-line drag, 30% to improve contact patch control. In that sense, legally improving tyre life would be the single biggest function, but would be less than half of the overall function.
This is similar to Murray's fan car. Yes, it was a great idea. After somebody thought of it (or, rather, figured out how to get it through the wording of the rule book), however, would the racing have been better if all the teams adopted the same system?
Re yokes on planes, please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe that yoke rotation is sufficiently sensitive that when flying 'next to' another aircraft a quarter-inch of unintentional rotation for a quarter of a second is going to make much of a difference, whereas in modern F1 cars it can easily cause a crash.
Re the f-duct, I don't recall Hamilton's or Button's complaining that the system was unsafe. The problem was that, although McLaren's original version was always integrated into their approved chassis and functioned well as part of its system, other teams could only cobble together half-assed versions that were not well designed, were not properly integrated in an FIA-approved chassis, and required more awkward movement from their drivers. The erstaz versions might have been unsafe, but there was no evidence that McLaren's was.
You're merely reiterating Mercedes's side of the argument. That's fine but, as in a court room, one should not uncrticially presume that, just because it suits one's prejudice, there is only one side to a story. My original post, to which you first replied, specifically stated:a. Wheel is not considered a moveable aero device. This system is legal on these grounds as any argument you make would ban steering altogether. Having no steering would be really interesting for a racecar. Under the way you are describing, brakes themselves would be moveable aero devices since they change ride height
b. Steering is separate from suspension. There is a clear distinction for engineers and for the regulations between the two. Toe changes anytime steering input is conducted. This just changes it a different way and no distinction is made in the regulations. The distinction IS made in the 2021 regulations by stating which axis of rotation are allowed.
What makes you think that a driver wouldn't be able to steer with this system? You ever play with a messed up sim wheel that wasn't fixed properly? You can still steer even if the column is moving in and out uncontrollably. I would expect this DAS to be setup so that there is resistance to pull it in or out. Can't easily be accidentally engaged. And actually when it is, the steering sensitivity of the car is reduced due to the toe out condition being reduced.
Regarding F-duct, I loved that shit. But to try and say DAS is unsafe is a weaker argument than F-duct
I was not aware of that - thank you!Am sure he has seen it but just in case New Britain had missed this pearl....
New Max Mosley documentary set for March release
"""The documentary also features interviews with prominent F1 figures such as Bernie Ecclestone, Jean Todt, Flavio Briatore, and the late Robin Herd """
I wonder if it would have an interview with Ron Dennis too or did spanky get involved to make sure he turned into a hagiography about himself.....