How,s that skirt coming along ??????
Makes sense with regards to the comments overall. Curious to see what owners who go on racetrack with their MP4 think about this review.
Testing yesterday:How,s that skirt coming along ??????
8 out of 8 judges gave the Porsche a #1, and that included Randy P.
I would not consider the normal Carrera S, but am excited to see what Porsche comes up with regarding the 991 GT3.I had my 12C on the racetrack again last night and I agree with every single word that Motor Trend has written. This is a very objective and fair assessment of what the 12C does and how it does it. My buddies last night were in GT3 and RS Porsches with non-stock alignments and running Cup tires. If I'm completely honest, my 12C on standard P Zeros gave up a smidge in the tightest of corners and Brake Steer was working overtime to keep it close. Obviously on the straights, it was no contest. Given the tire grip disadvantage, I was in awe of 12C's inherent capabilities and so were my buddies, who are track junkies and all quite handy behind the wheel. If the 12C was on Cups, or even Corsas, I can't even imagine how insanely capable it would be.
I agree 100%. You really have a great way of expressing on screen the thoughts that most of us owners have about the car.I had my 12C on the racetrack again last night and I agree with every single word that Motor Trend has written. This is a very objective and fair assessment of what the 12C does and how it does it. My buddies last night were in GT3 and RS Porsches with non-stock alignments and running Cup tires. If I'm completely honest, my 12C on standard P Zeros gave up a smidge in the tightest of corners and Brake Steer was working overtime to keep it close. Obviously on the straights, it was no contest. Given the tire grip disadvantage, I was in awe of 12C's inherent capabilities and so were my buddies, who are track junkies and all quite handy behind the wheel. If the 12C was on Cups, or even Corsas, I can't even imagine how insanely capable it would be.
Obviously, nobody likes to finish 5th in a magazine article, but if I'm McLaren <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> reading what is actually being said, this is exactly the type of review that will give the brand its unique identity. McLaren is putting all of this technology into the cars to raise performance to a new level and you really cannot argue with that lap time. I doubt that Williams' F1 drivers were complaining that the car was doing everything for them, back when they had active suspensions and lapping 5 seconds faster than everybody else. Now, people will say these are road cars so that is irrelevant. But, actually, it is not. This is exactly how McLaren needs to keep setting themselves apart from its competitors. They need to make cars that can redefine performance. To do, so they may always get shaded in the "feel" department by contenders that are not so focused on speed. But, over the long term, that is what will give the brand its USP and even the press will begin to recognize it as very intentional. Others are only talking about transferring F1 technology to the road; McLaren is actually doing it.
Now, was it fun last night to dice it up on track with RS Porsches in my daily driver? What do you think?
Well, everybody has their own definition of fun, which I think is a good thing. We don't want a whole range of Veyron copycats, nor do we want only Miatas and BRZ's to choose from. There have to be different value propositions to allow the various manufacturers to co-exist in the marketplace. If everybody was trying to be exactly like Porsche, they'd all go bankrupt because there could only be one.Again, it seems all about the so called "missing soul"
Scubi BRZ lapping a whole 17 (!!!) seconds slower is the better car, more fun ?? Come on, give me a break. Why not adding a 1988 205 GTI to the competition, should make it to the first place easily.
I was sitting in a 12C for the very first time this summer and became one with the car after less than a lap in Goodwood. Only if you are truely open to new concepts, you can fully appreciate what McLaren has accomplished with this car.
It's one hell of a fast car and THE weapon of choice for track days. Great videos to come next year, I promise
Some things are just not there to "get", I think. Compare to Sport Auto, which scores performance much more objectively and factors in the Ring time. They gave the 12C a perfect 70/70 score, I think. Different criteria, that's all.
It is a heavy car no doubt. Drive one, feel it instantly. Sounds like Lambo is being cheap, and cutting corners with laminate, instead of actual pure cf like what is advertised. Car really needs a PDK or Audi's new DCT
Were the 1,000+ units sold on what basis? Was it hype?
