Corvette E-Ray Drag Race Ferrari F8 And Lamborghini Huracan Evo

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eMcL

Discussion Starter · 3 mo ago

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Watch Chevy Corvette E-Ray Drag Race Ferrari F8 And Lamborghini Huracan Evo

The hybrid Corvette shows what it can do against a pair of Italian supercars in this video.

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EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #2 · 3 mo ago

I feel like all these C8 videos are intentionally glorifying it by picking cars to compare they know won't keep up. The Huracan was a top performer when it came out in 2015, it's slow and outdated now. The F8 is lipstick on a 458. I can't think of a scenario where on an unpreped surface AWD won't immediately make a large gap and 1/4 mile is rarely enough room to fill that gap if the cars are remotely comparable in weight and power as well.

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eMcL

Discussion Starter · #3 · 3 mo ago

EMF Audio (McMedics) said:
I feel like all these C8 videos are intentionally glorifying it by picking cars to compare they know won't keep up. The Huracan was a top performer when it came out in 2015, it's slow and outdated now. The F8 is lipstick on a 458. I can't think of a scenario where on an unpreped surface AWD won't immediately make a large gap and 1/4 mile is rarely enough room to fill that gap if the cars are remotely comparable in weight and power as well.

Yep - that’s how you get early access to an E-Ray 😀

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EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #4 · 3 mo ago

eMcL said:
Yep - that’s how you get early access to an E-Ray 😀

And a Z06, as seen in prior videos.

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Firstkill

· #5 · 3 mo ago

I wonder if they launch controlled the lambo/ferrari. It didnt seem like it.

EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #6 · 3 mo ago

Firstkill said:
I wonder if they launch controlled the lambo/ferrari. It didnt seem like it.

There is also the point of appropriate tire temperatures and pressures. There are plenty of ways to rig a test to get a desired result while appearing legitimate by not supplying information.

Jo_sta7

· #7 · 3 mo ago

Firstkill said:
I wonder if they launch controlled the lambo/ferrari. It didnt seem like it.

Ferreri did 0-60 in 2.7 seconds. They absolutely launched it right.

Bankai

· #8 · 2 mo ago

EMF Audio (McMedics) said:
I feel like all these C8 videos are intentionally glorifying it by picking cars to compare they know won't keep up. The Huracan was a top performer when it came out in 2015, it's slow and outdated now. The F8 is lipstick on a 458. I can't think of a scenario where on an unpreped surface AWD won't immediately make a large gap and 1/4 mile is rarely enough room to fill that gap if the cars are remotely comparable in weight and power as well.

Not to mention running it against the heavier convertible variants of the Italians, and a RWD EVO. I can't imagine there wasn't a way to get an AWD EVO coupe, in California, for this shoot.

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EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #9 · 2 mo ago

Bankai said:
Not to mention running it against the heavier convertible variants of the Italians, and a RWD EVO. I can't imagine there wasn't a way to get an AWD EVO coupe, in California, for this shoot.

He also made mention of using the rest of the track, which I'm guessing we won't see a C8 do. Nobody has track compared a C8 except for a 600LT which utterly embarrassed it with an amateur driver.

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EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #10 · 2 mo ago

This is what I expect to see. Beyond 100 MPH C8's get gapped, no matter the powertrain. They're made to be quick in the range the average 50 year old uses them.

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Jo_sta7

· #11 · 2 mo ago

I expected the Z06 to pull a lot harder after 100 mph. 11.8 seconds 0-130 is not good for 670 hp.

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EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #12 · 2 mo ago

Jo_sta7 said:
I expected the Z06 to pull a lot harder after 100 mph. 11.8 seconds 0-130 is not good for 670 hp.

Geared for bragging to 60 MPH, and 670 HP is at over 8k RPM. Way back at 5k RPM where you're more likely to be it's around 400 HP.

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Jo_sta7

· #13 · 2 mo ago

EMF Audio (McMedics) said:
Geared for bragging to 60 MPH, and 670 HP is at over 8k RPM. Way back at 5k RPM where you're more likely to be it's around 400 HP.

Still doesn't make sense.

EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #14 · 2 mo ago

Jo_sta7 said:
Still doesn't make sense.

You don't understand how the car is making 400 or less HP for majority of the time it's driving, so having a high peak rating doesn't matter in comparison? There is also a torque comparison. Without turning this into a physics class I'll give the simplest of explanations on gearing. If you take the same car and change the gear ratios you change how quickly it accelerates and it's top speed. The 765LT accelerates faster than a 720s from having more power but also a different final drive ratio. Even though it has more power, the 720s has a faster top end speed because of gearing and less downforce (which is less drag). The stand out change in how they act is the gear ratios.

Now, another factor at speeds above 100 MPH can absolutely be drag coefficient. Naturally, nobody is bragging about it unless it's the lowest ever so we don't know those numbers for comparison.

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Jo_sta7

· #15 · 2 mo ago

EMF Audio (McMedics) said:
You don't understand how the car is making 400 or less HP for majority of the time it's driving, so having a high peak rating doesn't matter in comparison? There is also a torque comparison. Without turning this into a physics class I'll give the simplest of explanations on gearing. If you take the same car and change the gear ratios you change how quickly it accelerates and it's top speed. The 765LT accelerates faster than a 720s from having more power but also a different final drive ratio. Even though it has more power, the 720s has a faster top end speed because of gearing and less downforce (which is less drag). The stand out change in how they act is the gear ratios.

Now, another factor at speeds above 100 MPH can absolutely be drag coefficient. Naturally, nobody is bragging about it unless it's the lowest ever so we don't know those numbers for comparison.

The car at full throttle should be shifting at such points that it’s staying in the power band. At 670 hp the traps are too low. It’s weird. I can see being in too high a gear how the car isn’t making full hp obviously and might feel sluggish. But in a launch control scenario it should. I know how torque/hp curves work. I’m not a fool.

EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #16 · 2 mo ago

Jo_sta7 said:
The car at full throttle should be shifting at such points that it’s staying in the power band. At 670 hp the traps are too low. It’s weird. I can see being in too high a gear how the car isn’t making full hp obviously and might feel sluggish. But in a launch control scenario it should. I know how torque/hp curves work. I’m not a fool.

To stay within a 20% HP band (128 HP according to this graph) it's gotta live between 6,200 and 8,200 RPM.

Watching this video it looks like it's going down to ~5,200 at up shift point and on the top end looks like it's shifting ~7,500

This suggests the actual power being utilized is closer to 400-575 HP. Now factor in gearing so it 0-60's for all the paper spec fanboys and ta-da, there is your lower than expected performance.

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Jo_sta7

· #17 · 2 mo ago

So you’re saying in essence it doesn’t, practically speaking, make 670 hp. Which is what I’m saying as well. It’s trapping 5 mph too low.

EMF Audio (McMedics)

· #18 · 2 mo ago

Jo_sta7 said:
So you’re saying in essence it doesn’t, practically speaking, make 670 hp. Which is what I’m saying as well. It’s trapping 5 mph too low.

According to the dyno, at the crank it makes MORE than 670 HP. However, the usage of that power isn't optimized.

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