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RB is pleased to announce our release of a complete brake offer for 720S; whether you are looking for CCB rotor* replacement, converting to iron rotor, replacing brake pads, rebuilding OE calipers, or upgrading the complete brake system we have them all.


Please take a look at above link and let us know of the most needed replacement or upgrade you are looking for.
All designs are completed except the brake pads which we like to see if members here have used pads that can be barrowed for measurement. (please PM us)

Thank you and we look forward to serving your brake needs.

*See how our CCB rotors are made differently from others.
 

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For those who are interested in converting to iron rotors here are our center mount two piece light weight rotors:
  • True 100% bolt-on installation.
  • Full pad seating - No pad trimming (see below for pad seats on the rotor rings).
  • Made for track duty.

 

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Advantage analysis of two available aftermarket brake kit:

RB CCB/Iron Kit: All components; pads, rotors, and calipers are 100% compatible with Corvette ZR1 and OE (a combo of AP & Brembo) so you deal with GM dealers and/or aftermarket for the replacement parts. RB kit can merge seamlessly with your OE into ONE brake system for the flexibility and easy source of low cost replacement parts.

Essex Iron Kit: Nothing is compatible to OE; Not pad, not rotor, not even the calipers (Although "same" AP made, but OE calipers are NOT the same as Essex's aftermarket kit), so buying Essex kit means you will own TWO separate brake systems which will make you wonder which system to upkeep? and when it comes to ordering replacement parts, you can only deal with Mclaren dealers and/or Essex distributors.

Note: Here Essex kit is used instead of Essex/AP kit as advertised, so a general consumer would not get confused between Essex and AP.

Essex is an AP distributor in the US just like Stillen, and is NOT AP which is a brake company in the UK.
 

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Front brake is up for checking on any improvement (clearance. offset etc.) eg. the pad bottom is a little too close to the rotor hat flange.


 

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Failing to see the advantage of your iron kit vs the ap essex kit, which I currently own and absolutely love. The whole point of ditching the OE calipers and rotors is so I can beat the crap out of the racing calipers/pads at the track and then switch back over to the OE setup on the street.
 

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Comparison on RB & Essex brake kit:

RB CCB/Iron Kit: All components; pads, rotors, and calipers are 100% compatible with Corvette ZR1 and OE (570S) so for future replacement you would deal with GM dealers and/or aftermarket suppliers. RB kit merges seamlessly with OE into ONE brake system for the flexibility and easy source of low cost replacement parts.

Essex Iron Kit: None of the components is compatible so buying Essex kit means you will own TWO separate systems which will make you wonder which system to upkeep? and when it comes to replacement parts, you can only deal with McLaren dealers and/or Essex (AP distributor)

Once RB kit is in place you simply keep the calipers there and swap only the rotor and pad as needed - No need to "bleed the system" as swapping the calipers.
 

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last post is just a repeat of previous posting with no other info.
do your calipers include anti knock back springs,vented pistons or piston heat shields, dust boots,pad swept area?
would like more info than what's been provided so far.
 

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Correct me if im wrong.
But is the difference the stock calipers stay, the rotors and pads change out?? So you can beat up the system but save your mac ccb rotors/pads

If so i can definitely see the advantage in this.
Easier swap than having to replace callipers.
 

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This post made to rennlist may be of interest to you:
RacingBrake;17485819 said:
Originally Posted by RacingBrake View Post

All CCM rotors are subject to oxidization (surface pitting*) if they are run continuously above the threshold temperature round 650-700C.
Factors in reaching to the threshold temperature:
  • Vehicle weight (varied by car make and modifications)
  • Track speed (varied by driver's skill level)
  • Rotor material (iron, ccb etc.)
  • Rotor construction & design
  • Brake pad used
*When it happens the pad (even new) can be disintegrated very rapidly

If you haven't experienced any oxidization, you are lucky and may be you can share what you did with your car and how you used it on the tracks to share with the members to avoid from oxidization.

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As long as you can manage the braking temperature under the threshold temperature, a CCM rotor can last for life time w/o needing re-surfacing, regardless it's used on track or street.

Try to understand a CCM rotor DOES NOT wear like an iron rotor, in fact it seems never wear (or negligible if any), based on the used rotors from Aston Martin, Ferrari, GM, McLaren and Porsche etc. that we have held them on our hand and measured with a micrometer. Not any of the rotors ever run under the minimum thickness as imprinted on Brembo's rotor hat.


Take this ZR1 front rotor (394x36) as an example, the nominal thickness is 36mm and the suggested "min thk" is 35.5mm with only 0.5mm allowance as opposed to an iron rotor which normally is 2.0mm. You will also see a suggested min weight (which never used for an iron rotor). It's meant to monitor the loss of carbon due to oxidization but in our opinion, is meaningless, as the rotor contains drilled holes which are quickly filled with braking debris (like welded into the hole and can't be removed by a tool or compressed air) right after use, which contributes to the weight factor.

So the concern is not how many "track miles" rather it's how long can I run it over the "threshold temperature". Nonetheless a better practice for a track driver is to learn how to run the braking temperature "lower", otherwise even after 1st re-furbishing you are lining up for the next.
 

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Correct me if im wrong.
But is the difference the stock calipers stay, the rotors and pads change out?? So you can beat up the system but save your mac ccb rotors/pads

If so i can definitely see the advantage in this.
Easier swap than having to replace callipers.
Yes, RB caliper kit for 720S will be built as a direct swap to OE calipers and use the same rotors (in size and offset) as OE so you will have the following options:

Stage 1: Keep your OE calipers - Replace your rotors and pads to RB CCB (w/long carbon fiber), or converting to iron rotors.

Stage 2: Switch OE calipers to RB calipers (w/ZR1 pads) and retain the use of all the components (except OE pads) you replaced on stage 1.

Combine stage 1&2 to one - Installed the complete RB-CCB brake system (save some $2,500 vs. purchased in stages), and you will convert your 720S to Corvette ZR1 system so the rotor and pad replacement are available from GM dealer and/or online retailer at fraction of MC's dealer cost.
 

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last post is just a repeat of previous posting with no other info.
do your calipers include anti knock back springs,vented pistons or piston heat shields, dust boots,pad swept area?
would like more info than what's been provided so far.
1. Our calipers never use those "anti knock back springs" nor we know why they need those.
2. Yes our pistons are vented and machined from the solid stainless steel bar, the outer surface is chrome plated with a mirror finish to assure the smoothest piston movement.


Compare to OE (720S)


OE 570S


3. Dust boots for OE caliper replacement - We offer two grades on dust boots - Standard boots (Black) made of EPDM, and High temperature boots (Blue) made of Silicon for tracking racing. Since we introduced this high temp dust boots it has changed the "misconception" that track racers don't use dust boots as it got toasted on tracks right after replaced.

See our complete OE caliper rebuilt kit for McLaren (Note due to inch to mm conversion, we are missing 27 & 41mm for front calipers)

4. RB calipers use internal dust seal, no external dust boots like OE. Out of all 260+ OE calipers in our library only a few like Ferrari F430 Scuderia uses internal seals.


Note our calipers are featured with pad springs in 4 corners (each is secured by 2x M4 screws), this will assure the pad are always restrained with a snug fit inside the caliper. No clearance (like OE) that can cause pad movements (rocking inside the caliper) when a brake pedal is applied. This is even more critical on tracks where you are slicing .01 second and you want a rapid pedal apply/release without any slippage or dragging. OE's one side solid plate (on right) can only prevent caliper from wearing but has no spring effect like ours.




Racing Brake Replacement Caliper Review (GTR)
 

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To our knowledge, we are the only brake company offers "OE" caliper direct replacement (beyond rotors and pads) yet still compatible with OE components, so far these are available:
  1. Nissan GTR
  2. Mustang GT350R
  3. Mustang GT500
  4. McLaren (being added)
  5. Porsche 991 (Red-iron and Yellow-pccb)
We expect our system not can outperform OE set up but with compatible to OE components AND the flexibility for you to source the consumable elsewhere than MC or AP dealers. So you only have one system to upkeep than two.

The unique difference of RB brake system vs. other available systems in the market.
 
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