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2012 MP4-12C ----- 2018 720s
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where is that?
I tried looking quickly but couldn't find it. I had it installed but uninstalled it a while ago. I'll see if I can find it again.
 

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yep its WPF/.Net, MDS/McLarenEPA/Diagcode is all WPF. but yes you could do it with a UDS logger and interactive access to the any tool. There is people on here that have MDS and so I asked but they dont like sharing... I like sharing.
 
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yep its WPF/.Net, MDS/McLarenEPA/Diagcode is all WPF. but yes you could do it with a UDS logger and interactive access to the any tool. There is people on here that have MDS and so I asked but they dont like sharing... I like sharing.
Maybe one of those people could be inspired. They probably paid way too much for it so they don't want to budge, but making it pay for itself could be some inspiration.
 
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Pretty obvious OP is not interested in lowering price or even discuss his mds. The silence is telling and this is just wasted bandwidth now.
The comments of past days are more for everyone else, unless he'd like to learn from the comments and adjust the business model.
 

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Hey all, I figured I should chime in as I may be one of the few people who actually have this package.

This software has saved me at least $1,000 and continues to be of huge help & savings. When I bought my ~45k mile 12C from salvage auction, inevitably I was going to have a laundry list of issues and service to complete. I can DIY mostly anything with the right tools/equipment, and I could not have done many things without this software - especially my PCC errors I continue to work through (TBD in another topic). This is an extremely comprehensive software package likely equivalent to MDS in functionality (it's quite easy to use as well). It has not saved me the ~$k price yet, but it is only a matter of time as I hope/plan to be a long-term owner.

So far I have successfully accomplished:
1. key fob programming (car came with 1, I now have 3)
2. airbrake calibration and bleeding (mine was hydro-locked after some body work, this fixed it)
3. squat / ride-height sensor adjustment (common cause of PCC degraded)
4. TPMS fault (believe me, I read EVERY other thread and required the software to get my TPMS light out)
5. APMU service (TBD, but this software has been amazing for diagnostics & works comprehensively)
6. Dual clutch calibration (didn't need to, but thought that was cool so why not?!)
7. HVAC error (low pressure in the refrigerant; took it to a service shop for evac/recharge after diagnosed)

Everyone's situation is different. Perhaps your car is in better shape than mine was (I should hope so). Perhaps your interest of DIY is lower. Perhaps you only plan to own the car for 2-3yrs. In all of those cases, I may not have bought this software. However for me, the enjoyment I get out of being able to diagnose & fix my car (and to my own higher standard) is very important. The other nice thing is, if you choose to sell / change models, you can port the software to a new VIN. If you decide to sell and don't want another McLaren, including this with the car will undoubtedly add value to the sale & new owner. I know a lot of you have issues with DiagSoft price structure & subscription, but not all features go away after the subscription (I think programming and service reset won't work). You'll at least get 2yrs of service resets (the initial reset, and before your 1yr is up). If you don't want to renew, then go to the dealer for $100 or 1hr. The software is plenty powerful without the subscription features for my own use, and was not enough for me to pass on this.

Again, everyones situation is different. I'm not here to convince you or start another round of price-bashing. You'll need to weigh the cost/benefit for you and your car. But for me, it was worth the price of admission (and like I said above; if I decide to sell this with the car, that is a huge bonus for any potential buyer).

I'll upload videos of specific functions & a review once I have time to shoot / edit. But in summary, it's exceeded my expectations and works as stated by the seller.
 

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If OP can get Android app side load feature then charging more (even as much as $3k one time) would make sense since OP is offering something the dealer can't offer. Can you imagine 12C with built-in telemetry, Google Maps and Spotify?

Until then there is not enough differentiation to command a premium. Focus on features members want but can't get from the dealer, and you can justify a premium. OP, there is money waiting to be made.
 
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If OP can get Android app side load feature then charging more (even as much as $3k one time) would make sense since OP is offering something the dealer can't offer. Can you imagine 12C with built-in telemetry, Google Maps and Spotify?

Until then there is not enough differentiation to command a premium. Focus on features members want but can't get from the dealer, and you can justify a premium. OP, there is money waiting to be made.
Things my 12C has: Built in telemetry, Google Maps, and Spotify. That isn't hard to do, it also doesn't give access to what people need access to.
 
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Video of it working? Maybe start a new thread?
Been doing it over a year. I installed a smart mirror that is basically a phone, dashcam and, reverse cam. I have IRIS 1 or I'd go deeper making that part of IRIS 2. Thoughy reverse camera is way better than factory.
 

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Been doing it over a year. I installed a smart mirror that is basically a phone, dashcam and, reverse cam. I have IRIS 1 or I'd go deeper making that part of IRIS 2. Thoughy reverse camera is way better than factory.

Please do start a separate thread and share what you have created!
 
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Please do start a separate thread and share what you have created!
It would have to be a "this is what I already did, but this is what I did" video. Less instructional and more informational of what can be done. I didn't document that one at all while I was doing it, I did it February 2019.
 

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It would have to be a "this is what I already did, but this is what I did" video. Less instructional and more informational of what can be done. I didn't document that one at all while I was doing it, I did it February 2019.
I'm sure plenty of us would like to see it. Did you keep the IRIS 1 hardware and mirror on the factory screen, or overlay a separate piece of hardware [the phone]?
 
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