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This is fun to watch (for as long as it stays up on YouTube). Broadcast coincided with the opening of the MPC.
http://youtu.be/PXgs1yCH7LM
http://youtu.be/PXgs1yCH7LM
BBC/McLaren - How to Build a Supercar
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Around the time this was filmed they were working on the design for P12 and P13. I don't think you'll see McLaren building any 'concepts' - that is generally a tactic used by manufacturers whose production cars aren't very exciting or who want to showcase some future technology. McLaren's cars will have that excitement in production form and any technologies they can employ will be baked in already.
>8^)
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If my company imposed months of delays on deposit paying customers then delivering an incomplete product then I would have been out of business by now.
Wonder if the BBC mentions the delays and the frequent dealer 'upgrades'?
Wonder if the BBC mentions the delays and the frequent dealer 'upgrades'?
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Yes,true for many of us that own businesses,but you can leave the british press to that job sucessfully,and this is a product that is worth waiting for.As for delivering a product thats incomplete,you will find out of the 100 cars delivered only a handfull of customers have been unhappy ,and its these few that the press have jumped on ,not the likes of Bruce and I,who are over the moon to be in at the start.
So from your point of view ,you will get a car that has the build quality better than any current supercar in this price range,and your wait will soon be forgotten when you are in the car.
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Andy, thank you for the reassurance. Some may think that it is easy for you to say as you have your car!
Dealer still has my deposit(s) and my delivery date keeps getting pushed back (but I am only told when I chase the dealer).
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Could be then that your company doesn't have a product that anybody really wants?
(sorry just a gag, couldn't resist)
EDIT: Okay, let me soften that barb. What I mean to say is it is truly remarkable that people are willing to wait. Speaks to the pent up demand for road cars from the McLaren brand, I think. Which may have been your original point!
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Very true,but some may say that a few have gone through the pain for the good of the many
Im sure everyone on this site would have swapped to have been in my position,and ive said before i feel privilaged to be a first adopter,but some didnt!!
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+1. Sat nav would be nice, but beyond that I've had no significant issues.
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Sorry,and obviously everyone else who owns a 12c on this forum
AML,i can lend you a map,but ive got to find you first?
Not a concept car, but a conceptual design model, to help work out ideas.
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I guarantee that I will have more customers than McLaren, maybe not more turnover but more customers. In a sense more people want my product.
However my business doesn't make products that cost as much as an average house, absolutely not.
So rather than make a comparison to my clearly unexceptional business lets look from another perspective.
Do Apple delay their product shipments by 6 months after product announcement? If so how would their fanboys react? Mercilessly change their allegiance I should say.
People expect much better service in this day and age.
Regardless of how 'wonderful' the product is.
There is always the next big thing.
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I do understand your frustration,but not a great analogy.Apple have been supplying to the public for decades and their new Iphone has problems that maybe they should have delayed for 6 months,and even with the problems they have had they havent lost any fanboys.
The percentage of problems the iphone has had is no more than the 12c,still useable but not perfect,just like the last windows!! ,its had a 6 month delay,apparently so did the gallardo.The problem was the PR promising something different,which it will be,but not on the date they thought.
Maybe for the numbers they are going to produce its only enough for the fanboys,who dont jump ship for the next big thing,we have seen a few of those already and there will be more.But Mclaren are building a brand and they have make a mistake at the beginning,but its the thinking behind the car that will make the brand,not the badge.
ps,The service is already in place and is world class,they just need to get you in your cars.
pps.i waited 4 years and my delay was also 6 months,so whats new?
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Agreed. However, I will also throw out the caveat that we are dealing with the early adopters, here. Therefore, the willingness to endure is a lot higher. I believe you are correct to say that it will not last forever.
As a side note, perhaps I am a huge Apple fanboy, but I would put up with 6 months delay on the next iPhone, for example, because I know for sure that no competitor's product will be even close within that timeframe. (I hope your business is not competitive to Apple!?)
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