[alexceres]

The Takata airbags actually killed dozens of people. The Artura made a couple journalists pee their pants. Not the same.

Separately though, I struggle to see how this particular recall would require rebuilds. Why wouldn't it just be an engine out and new part ? Dealers could do that. I'm not convinced this is the complete story of what's going on.

 

[outie]

The Takata airbags actually killed dozens of people. The Artura made a couple journalists pee their pants. Not the same.

Separately though, I struggle to see how this particular recall would require rebuilds. Why wouldn't it just be an engine out and new part ? Dealers could do that. I'm not convinced this is the complete story of what's going on.

That's what I thought too. If it's just a nut, I don't see why they'd have to ship the cars back to UK to rebuild.

 

[eMcL]

……….
Separately though, I struggle to see how this particular recall would require rebuilds. Why wouldn't it just be an engine out and new part ? Dealers could do that. I'm not convinced this is the complete story of what's going on.

Yes - this from the NHTSA
“Remedy
Dealers will replace the high pressure fuel pipes, free of charge. The manufacturer has not yet provided a schedule for recall notification. Owners may contact McLaren customer service at 1-646-429-8916.”

 

[Superfluous]

This is NOT the reason for the recent suspension of production and restart in January. There was an entirely unrelated issue that had to be -- and was -- resolved. The fix will be in all forthcoming Arturas.

 

[aorta]

The Takata airbags actually killed dozens of people. The Artura made a couple journalists pee their pants. Not the same.

Separately though, I struggle to see how this particular recall would require rebuilds. Why wouldn't it just be an engine out and new part ? Dealers could do that. I'm not convinced this is the complete story of what's going on.

Yup.

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

This is NOT the reason for the recent suspension of production and restart in January. There was an entirely unrelated issue that had to be -- and was -- resolved. The fix will be in all forthcoming Arturas.

Jesus, just how many issues are there? Cars lighting up with press. Nuts causing leaks (was this the same issue), and @Superfluous mystery issue.

Mclaren PR needs to get ahead of this, give a statement clearly explaining what went wrong, what was fixed, and move away from this so it’s not a drip drip drip pr fester-wound.

 

[lolachampcar]

Let's imagine that there were no legal regulations regarding CO2 madness. Which sports car manufacturer who builds cars where maximum light weight is an essential and important product feature would then voluntarily build a hybrid powertrain? I dare say not one. The manufacturers build them because they have to and people buy this crap because sooner or later they won't get around it.

Conclusion: the crap is being built because certain governments want it that way.

And yes, I'm with you on the acceptance. Because people accept these "modern" cars just as they will accept that there will soon be legal regulations about when you are allowed to use a car at all, where and for what purpose. I only say "Oxfordshire"...

I read this and I realize just how strange I am.
I test drove a Model S in 2012, got a chance to lift hard in a fast sweeper and felt the mass working across the tire patch instead of trying to peal it off the pavement. Combine that with instant torque anywhere and that is all our household has used as a daily driver ever since. This is coming from a very long line of M cars as daily drivers. Switched. Overnight. BeV is simply a better tool for the task (for me).

Applying the above thinking to the post, the hybrid drive train has been very interesting for me for a very long time. My desire was to stick a smallish battery and two independent drive motors in the front using the system to (1) torque vector with accuracy and time constant not available in Dif and/or ICE throttling accuracy and (2) fill in the torque gap of turbo and NA. It is the very best of all worlds and the weight penalty is significantly lower when you are talking about a 4 KW-Hr versus 100 KW-Hr battery. The very notion that the Artura is being written about in the same breath as the 720 speaks volumes to my point.

Now if you need global climate change and emissions as your boogy man, please do not let me get in your way. From a simple seat of the pants enjoyment of a daily driver, I'm on board (but then, as I started this post, I'm strange).

 

[unmac]

Jesus, just how many issues are there? Cars lighting up with press. Nuts causing leaks (was this the same issue), and @Superfluous mystery issue.

Mclaren PR needs to get ahead of this, give a statement clearly explaining what went wrong, what was fixed, and move away from this so it’s not a drip drip drip pr fester-wound.

@Champagne612 was correct.... Mclaren owners seem to be a whiny bunch.

below is NHTSA.gov recall information for select vehicles..




All (418) SUV (78)PASSENGER CAR (340)
980 Results
for porsche

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2021 PORSCHE TAYCAN TURBO S 4 DR AWD	11	1	37	328

FILTER BY VEHICLE TYPE
All (449) SUV (94)TRUCK (15)PASSENGER CAR (323)VAN (15)BUS (2)
1677 Results
for mercedes

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2019 MERCEDES-BENZ SPRINTER 2500 12 PASSENGER VAN RWD	38	0	43	109

All (631) SUV (92)PASSENGER CAR (539)
2746 Results
for bmw

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2010 BMW X5 4 DR 4WD	21	2	130	319

All (8) PASSENGER CAR (8)
287 Results
for ferrari

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
1995 FERRARI F355	6	0	2	13
1999 FERRARI 360 MODENA F1	5	0	0	14
1999 FERRARI 360 MODENA	5	0	0	15
2016 FERRARI 488 GTB	5	1	1	49
2015 FERRARI F12 BERLINETTA	4	1	0	39
2018 FERRARI 488 SPIDER	4	1	1	45
2010 FERRARI 458 ITALIA	4	2	3	51
2011 FERRARI 458 ITALIA	4	2	1	51
2009 FERRARI CALIFORNIA	4	0	0	48
2010 FERRARI CALIFORNIA	4	0	1	49

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104 Results
for lamborghini

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2016 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	3	0	0	20
2015 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	3	0	0	20
2020 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN	3	0	0	3
2012 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	3	0	0	40
2019 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN	2	0	0	5
2002 LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO	2	0	0	1
2022 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN	2	0	0	0
2020 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR SVJ ROADSTER	2	0	0	0
2013 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	2	0	0	36
2020 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR SVJ COUPE	2	0	0	0

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61 Results
for mclaren

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2012 MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER	3	0	2	67
2020 MCLAREN GT	3	0	0	40
2013 MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER	2	1	2	63
2019 MCLAREN 720S	2	0	0	92
2020 MCLAREN 720S	2	0	0	90
2019 MCLAREN SENNA	2	0	0	46
2014 MCLAREN P1	2	0	0	38
2015 MCLAREN P1	2	0	0	32
2019 MCLAREN GT	1	0	0	17
2014 MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER	1	1	3	55

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

@Champagne612 was correct.... Mclaren owners seem to be a whiny bunch.

Yet some are deaf to irony.

 

[VRP14]

Ahhh end of the world!!! Ahhhh!!!! Run!!!!

 

[Superfluous]

below is NHTSA.gov recall information for select vehicles..

All (418) SUV (78)PASSENGER CAR (340)
980 Results
for porsche

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2021 PORSCHE TAYCAN TURBO S 4 DR AWD	11	1	37	328

FILTER BY VEHICLE TYPE
All (449) SUV (94)TRUCK (15)PASSENGER CAR (323)VAN (15)BUS (2)
1677 Results
for mercedes

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2019 MERCEDES-BENZ SPRINTER 2500 12 PASSENGER VAN RWD	38	0	43	109

All (631) SUV (92)PASSENGER CAR (539)
2746 Results
for bmw

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2010 BMW X5 4 DR 4WD	21	2	130	319

All (8) PASSENGER CAR (8)
287 Results
for ferrari

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
1995 FERRARI F355	6	0	2	13
1999 FERRARI 360 MODENA F1	5	0	0	14
1999 FERRARI 360 MODENA	5	0	0	15
2016 FERRARI 488 GTB	5	1	1	49
2015 FERRARI F12 BERLINETTA	4	1	0	39
2018 FERRARI 488 SPIDER	4	1	1	45
2010 FERRARI 458 ITALIA	4	2	3	51
2011 FERRARI 458 ITALIA	4	2	1	51
2009 FERRARI CALIFORNIA	4	0	0	48
2010 FERRARI CALIFORNIA	4	0	1	49

prevPage 1 of 29next



104 Results
for lamborghini

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2016 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	3	0	0	20
2015 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	3	0	0	20
2020 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN	3	0	0	3
2012 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	3	0	0	40
2019 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN	2	0	0	5
2002 LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO	2	0	0	1
2022 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN	2	0	0	0
2020 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR SVJ ROADSTER	2	0	0	0
2013 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR	2	0	0	36
2020 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR SVJ COUPE	2	0	0	0

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61 Results
for mclaren

VEHICLES	RECALLS	INVESTIGATIONS	COMPLAINTS	MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS
2012 MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER	3	0	2	67
2020 MCLAREN GT	3	0	0	40
2013 MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER	2	1	2	63
2019 MCLAREN 720S	2	0	0	92
2020 MCLAREN 720S	2	0	0	90
2019 MCLAREN SENNA	2	0	0	46
2014 MCLAREN P1	2	0	0	38
2015 MCLAREN P1	2	0	0	32
2019 MCLAREN GT	1	0	0	17
2014 MCLAREN MP4-12C SPIDER	1	1	3	55

Puts things in perspective. Thanks.

 

[Lotus000]

I’ll admit to being irritated, whiny, whatever with the continued delays. I would be less so if McLaren actual or my dealer simply said: “hey this is the problem and this is the timeline for the fix and this is the fix and there ya go.” But they don’t.

I don’t want to have to Sherlock Holmes or CIA why there’s an issue with a car.

 

[idontlift]

I’ll admit to being irritated, whiny, whatever with the continued delays. I would be less so if McLaren actual or my dealer simply said: “hey this is the problem and this is the timeline for the fix and this is the fix and there ya go.” But they don’t.

I don’t want to have to Sherlock Holmes or CIA why there’s an issue with a car.

while all this doesn’t bother me, it really comes down to corporate comms. If corporate Mclaren were open about this issues I’m sure most would be more than supportive. As many business owners have Mclarens, we all get this is a fact of life. Just say what it is. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Macadoo]

This delay (and comments like Michaelj's) has me wondering if I should just be buying a used 720 for just a little more money. It would probably cost an extra $8-10k per year in warranty coverage plus maintenance, but the depreciation would likely be less, so financially not much difference. Any opinions on what some of you would do?

Thanks for the feedback everyone. With my Artura sent back to England and an updated delivery estimate of May, I bought a 720 with a year and a half of warranty left. Kept the deposit down on the Artura but am unlikely to follow through as the first few days with the 720 have been a blast. I have six months to evaluate and decide.

 

[Lotus000]

while all this doesn’t bother me, it really comes down to corporate comms. If corporate Mclaren were open about this issues I’m sure most would be more than supportive. As many business owners have Mclarens, we all get this is a fact of life. Just say what it is. 🤷🏻‍♂️

This this this. Radio silence just irritates everyone.

 

[patartur]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. With my Artura sent back to England and an updated delivery estimate of May, I bought a 720 with a year and a half of warranty left. Kept the deposit down on the Artura but am unlikely to follow through as the first few days with the 720 have been a blast. I have six months to evaluate and decide.

i also bought a 720s
I am delighted

 

[Orangespyder]

I have a delivered Artura. No recall notices to date. Artura running fine so far.

 

[Orangespyder]

Just passed 1000 miles. Drove for extended period of time in heavy traffic with 2 longer round trips to VA and NYC from Philly. Shifting program is sometimes awkward but otherwise the car has been great.

 

[patartur]

Good news

 

[markj]

I have a delivered Artura. No recall notices to date. Artura running fine so far.

View attachment 226408

Great color, did you post pics of the interior anywhere?