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Yes kinda. - from MotorSport “a 3-litre V6 engine designed from scratch by McLaren. It will however to continue to be assembled by Ricardo”
Not sure where McLaren got the experience to ‘design from scratch’ but ….. Ricardo would be a good partner

The Bizarre V-6 in McLaren's Newest Supercar Is Unlike Any Other Engine

McLaren's new entry-level hybrid uses an engine layout never seen on a production car before.

www.roadandtrack.com

 

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Changing the spark plugs is going to be a challenge for the McMedics.....

 

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I must admit, the entire package is a pretty convincing upgrade from the existing entry level. OTA software updates, numerous systems which should eliminate turbo lag, lighter carbon tech, fully electric supermarket runs, and performance that sounds as if it might be pretty close to the current 720. The scary side of it is just how many brand new systems & technologies are included, which I'm guessing is at least one of the reasons for the delays.

 

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Well I was just connecting dots … don’t take it as gospel

We know at least 310 Artura’s have been built - saw that on the video. We also know shipment has been delayed again, and we know Mike Flewitt resigned …. 😇

Not to worry, there are plenty of contributors whose word is absolutely gospel and will no doubt be along shortly to correct you in their usual vague and condescending fashion!

 

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I don't know yet
I am disappointed by the brand which gives more information to investors than to customers

They're legally obliged to do so.

 

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No, they have plenty of funding in place and the 765LT is highly profitable.

Shout out to the Share Your Build thread!😁

 

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anyone ask at pure mclaren event about artura delays?

I wondered about asking, but Pure McLaren have a dedicated team who probably wouldn't know even if they were allowed to say anything.

 

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I don’t think so 2 points :
1/ how it can take so long time to correct software problems, They have been testing cars for months they did not detect problems before ??!!
2/ you can deliver cars and update software remotely

LOL. I'm guessing you're not in software development?? This is extremely complex software.

 

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Exactly, the person that told him this is someone that would, without a doubt, know what the issue is. They were very specific- not a chip problem, not a supply problem....a software problem.

Yeah, this car is significantly different from what has come before, even the P1. You only have to look at Aston and the problems they've had on a much simpler car that costs millions and which will be made in extremely small numbers.

 

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Looks like Artura customer orders are now Q2 2022 according to McLaren's December 2nd investor update about the chip shortage

I got the same info from the dealer last week. Q2.

 

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is production haulted, or is it just slowed down at the factory?

The blurb says a slowdown. It also mentions software "validation", which is a very specific term when it comes to regulated software, which I assume it is. Validation often takes longer than the traditional development and testing steps, although presumably they must have been through this before unless they're dealing with increased regulatory requirements (something I'm currently going through myself and which is extremely painful).

 

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Wow could be any of a number of problems I guess - ambitious project with many new elements. FWIW I’ve been screwed by software development delays during my working career ..

Not to mention unrealistic deadlines dictated by the sales & finance teams.....

 

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If it is software, they may have cars produced and sitting, waiting on software. Meaning, they wouldn't be effected by the chip shortage. I don't know if they have the capacity to do that, but I know Ford and GM have done that. Have completed vehicles waiting on what was missing, sitting in a parking lot.

It's also possible they had a contractor working on software that either went under or got fired before having a replacement contractor. I know, you're thinking "that's dumb" but guess why there has been a key shortage?

Does that mean we might finally have a solution to the key not found message??

 

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Could it be the closure is related to the transition time for either Audi or BMW new ownership?

That's the last thing any buyer would want. Production continuation would be priority 1.

 

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More likely to be because they couldn't get a deal done, imo.

 

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Yes it is complicated- does VAG enter F1 as a PU supplier to Red Bull/Other, acquire a team McLaren/Other or develop a VAG chassis & PU?

Red Bull? They don't need a PU!

 

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Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?

Right? They told us what the problem is!

 

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Email from Navin McLaren SF “your Artura order, based on the new revised dates from McLaren - production completion date is May 15th of 2022. June delivery”

I'm very tempted by the Artura after having seen one at COTA. Looks much better than the pictures.

 

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Advertising Artura on F1 testing at Bahrain —-
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Good eyes. It's starting to feel like the Tesla Roadster. 😭

 

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Lolol. No.

The Tesla Roadster is trying to compete with the Valkyrie for most delayed project ever. It was announced 5 years ago, and there's no way to ships in less than 2 years.

Well we're going to be at least a year late on the Artura by the look of it, and probably later than that!