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Hello again .

I am confused by the acceleration figures mclaren claim for this car . The tests I have seen ( sport auto , autocar ) get no way near the mclaren official figures .

Has anyone seen any others they can quote for me ?
I'm interested to hear owners opinions on this .
Thanks .
 

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Hello again .

I am confused by the acceleration figures mclaren claim for this car . The tests I have seen ( sport auto , autocar ) get no way near the mclaren official figures .

Has anyone seen any others they can quote for me ?
I'm interested to hear owners opinions on this .
Thanks .
The maximum figures for the car have been collated on the FASTESTESTLAPS site,these are all confirmed before being allowed on the site,but many are with the standard American 1foot rollout start,but some are from german magazines and other sources.
Ps,Dont bother reading the bloggs as there are alot of haters on there!!
 

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The maximum figures for the car have been collated on the FASTESTESTLAPS site,these are all confirmed before being allowed on the site,but many are with the standard American 1foot rollout start,but some are from german magazines and other sources.
Ps,Dont bother reading the bloggs as there are alot of haters on there!!
That site is not specific enough for me ( for the very reasons you mention ) do you know of any others I could look at please ?
 

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German mag, so no rollout:
0-100 km/h: 3.0s
0-200 km/h: 8.7s


Fastest instrumented test so far I think is Car and Driver with one-foot rollout: 0-60mph 2.9s and 1/4 mile 10.7 @134mph, bettering both GT2 RS and 458 Challenge, oops I mean 458 press car ;) in same test: http://imageshack.us/f/62/fmp6.jpg/
Thank you mate . Let's not even talk about the prancing donkey :D

Any other tests gents ?
 

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LMFAO, disappointing times??? What a load of cr*p. Motortrend did a 11.1 second run ON A RUNWAY. We have no idea what tires are on his McLaren, at what altitude the strip is on, or how the track is prepped (or isn't). His time fluctuation from nearly 12 seconds to 11.6 seconds and varying from 126 mph to 131 mph should tell you all you need to know... Driver also may be missing the shift points. You can hear the car squeaking down the whole track in every gear. This is probably the most slippery track I've ever seen an exotic run on.

Oh, and according to this guy at the track, the quickest it did on that day in those conditions was 11.2 seconds. Obviously the driver is still learning how to eek the time out of it...
 

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TRACK CONDITION, TIRES, DRIVER SHIFTING, ALTITUDE, all of these things play into time and speed. Get off your high horse, there haven't been many customer cars to go to the track. And you want to base everything off 1 car and 1 driver.

As I said earlier, this same very car ran 11.2 seconds. Oh, and the car in auto mode is slower than if the driver shifts at 7500 rpm. I guess he'll figure that out eventually
 

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In a klu klux klan forum I feel there will be more democracy …
Did you enjoy my video ? So much, I have instantly won a Ferrari chat subscription for free, thank you.
Face facts.
With LC and gear in auto mode is it the owner can't drive their cars fast ?
Please be serious.
Come back to me when you will be able to show me a customer MP4-12C running ¼ miles under 11 seconds AS IN MAGAZINE TEST.
In the meanwhile you can post all youtube videos you want.
Whatever buddy. Every first-post troll that comes over here is a Ferrari Fanboy and/or 458 owner and I guarantee you are no different. Can smell you a mile away.
 

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In a klu klux klan forum I feel there will be more democracy …
Did you enjoy my video ? So much, I have instantly won a Ferrari chat subscription for free, thank you.
Face facts.
With LC and gear in auto mode is it the owner can't drive their cars fast ?
Please be serious.
Come back to me when you will be able to show me a customer MP4-12C running ¼ miles under 11 seconds AS IN MAGAZINE TEST.
In the meanwhile you can post all youtube videos you want.
Excuse me , I asked a genuine question . Please don't use my thread as an excuse to soapbox your agenda . Go make your own . FYI I have spent enough time in both to tell you that regardless of the mclarens figures it positively annihilates the 458 in acceleration and real world performance . That's one of the reasons I'm buying an mp4-12c not a 458 and I'm not even going into comfort , build quality , customer service etc etc .
The question was not mp4-12c vs 458 but I have an interesting proposition if that's so important to you . if a member here will lend his car and you bring us a 458 from your Ferrari forum , I will provide you an impartial f1 and le mans group c level driver ( at my expense ) to drive both cars , on track , with telemetry to show which is faster once and for all . I think that's very interesting , no ? 2 real customer cars no tuning no magic or dodgy tyres .
You want to play or you want to troll ? ;)
 

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Excuse me , I asked a genuine question . Please don't use my thread as an excuse to soapbox your agenda . Go make your own . FYI I have spent enough time in both to tell you that regardless of the mclarens figures it positively annihilates the 458 in acceleration and real world performance . That's one of the reasons I'm buying an mp4-12c not a 458 and I'm not even going into comfort , build quality , customer service etc etc .
The question was not mp4-12c vs 458 but I have an interesting proposition if that's so important to you . if a member here will lend his car and you bring us a 458 from your Ferrari forum , I will provide you an impartial f1 and le mans group c level driver ( at my expense ) to drive both cars , on track , with telemetry to show which is faster once and for all . I think that's very interesting , no ? 2 real customer cars no tuning no magic or dodgy tyres .
You want to play or you want to troll ? ;)
The offer has been made many times before,but with no response from the other camp!
Again i offer my car if you need it!,Oh if the excuse is its an America poster,there are plenty willing over the pond,bring it on!!:D
 

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As I said earlier, this same very car ran 11.2 seconds. Oh, and the car in auto mode is slower than if the driver shifts at 7500 rpm. I guess he'll figure that out eventually
Touge Spirit. Help me here, is the 7500 rpm point the peak of torque, hence the optimum change point?
 

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7500 rpm is peak power point. Peak torque comes earlier at 5500 rpm and then tapers off gradually. If you shift at over 8k on a strip, you're losing time, first off because the transient response slows a bit up there. After shifts at 7500 rpm, I believe it will drop the revs right into the torque band at 5500 rpm and utilize the broad powerband there. On a track, the extra rpms are useful as they possibly allow you to hold the gear longer
 

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Thanks TS, makes sense and now I know how to really scare myself I just need to stop my wife screaming, with fright that is.

Seriously, I did a standing start and went all the way round the counter more out of surprise as the ballistic acceleration is in superbike league, just astounding.

I guess I need to try launch control.
 

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Excuse me , I asked a genuine question . Please don't use my thread as an excuse to soapbox your agenda . Go make your own . FYI I have spent enough time in both to tell you that regardless of the mclarens figures it positively annihilates the 458 in acceleration and real world performance . That's one of the reasons I'm buying an mp4-12c not a 458 and I'm not even going into comfort , build quality , customer service etc etc .
The question was not mp4-12c vs 458 but I have an interesting proposition if that's so important to you . if a member here will lend his car and you bring us a 458 from your Ferrari forum , I will provide you an impartial f1 and le mans group c level driver ( at my expense ) to drive both cars , on track , with telemetry to show which is faster once and for all . I think that's very interesting , no ? 2 real customer cars no tuning no magic or dodgy tyres .
You want to play or you want to troll ? ;)
Well, well, after the troll was smoked out, kicked slapped and kicked to the curb he isn't responding to the offer... big surprise!!
 
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