40k?? FFS! Oh, wait 40k difference! Doh!
80k is still cheap, imo, even with that mileage.
80k is still cheap, imo, even with that mileage.
570s GT4 vs 570s Converted For Track Use
Prices of the 570s road cars are silly low at the moment (when you think about what you get for that money!)
I have been meaning to get a dedicated track car for a while now, being delayed by around 12 months due to a very problematic house move, means having a 570s instead of a lotus exige is now a thing.
To me, owning two McLaren's would be fucking awesome... but!
You can now buy a road going 570s for around £40,000 less than an actual GT4 car.
GT4 Car:
McLaren 570S GT4 (Perfect Condition)
Road Car:
Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale
What would you say is the best thing to do here? Would the road car drop in value being used as a track car with being converted to GT4? Would the GT4 car itself keep its value?
Resale is somewhat important as I would eventually like to trade in 24months from now and get a 720s GT3 car.
Who here has used the 570s as a track car (almost exclusively)?
Cheers!
I have been meaning to get a dedicated track car for a while now, being delayed by around 12 months due to a very problematic house move, means having a 570s instead of a lotus exige is now a thing.
To me, owning two McLaren's would be fucking awesome... but!
You can now buy a road going 570s for around £40,000 less than an actual GT4 car.
GT4 Car:
McLaren 570S GT4 (Perfect Condition)
Road Car:
Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale
What would you say is the best thing to do here? Would the road car drop in value being used as a track car with being converted to GT4? Would the GT4 car itself keep its value?
Resale is somewhat important as I would eventually like to trade in 24months from now and get a 720s GT3 car.
Who here has used the 570s as a track car (almost exclusively)?
Cheers!
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The GT4 makes less power, can't be road registered, uses specialized parts, and has a very narrow market for resale. The road car has a broader market, cheaper to run, can be driven on the road. The GT4 would be VERY hard to resell I suspect.Prices of the 570s road cars are silly low at the moment (when you think about what you get for that money!)
I have been meaning to get a dedicated track car for a while now, being delayed by around 12 months due to a very problematic house move, means having a 570s instead of a lotus exige is now a thing.
To me, owning two McLaren's would be fucking awesome... but!
You can now buy a road going 570s for around £40,000 less than an actual GT4 car.
GT4 Car:
McLaren 570S GT4 (Perfect Condition)
Road Car:
Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale
What would you say is the best thing to do here? Would the road car drop in value being used as a track car with being converted to GT4? Would the GT4 car itself keep its value?
Resale is somewhat important as I would eventually like to trade in 24months from now and get a 720s GT3 car.
Who here has used the 570s as a track car (almost exclusively)?
Cheers!
Meanwhile, the trend of prices in the US of being nearly double continue.40k?? FFS! Oh, wait 40k difference! Doh!
80k is still cheap, imo, even with that mileage.
Yeah, it seems like a catch 22 here... the race car will hold its value almost forever, but the market for them is incredibly small, it may just be better to go with the lotus until the time is right to get the 720sGT3The GT4 makes less power, can't be road registered, uses specialized parts, and has a very narrow market for resale. The road car has a broader market, cheaper to run, can be driven on the road. The GT4 would be VERY hard to resell I suspect.
Used prices here will always be higher while dealers hold a near monopoly.The GT4 makes less power, can't be road registered, uses specialized parts, and has a very narrow market for resale. The road car has a broader market, cheaper to run, can be driven on the road. The GT4 would be VERY hard to resell I suspect.
Meanwhile, the trend of prices in the US of being nearly double continue.
Importing the GT4 to the UK will cost you import duty and then VAT. If it's a company purchase you could reclaim the VAT.
Get a road car, put on the thickest PPF and a set of beaten up rims for your trackday tires. Fit some bucket seats, harnesses and suitable pads and you should be ready to go.
40k GBP buys a lot of fuel, track time, tyres etc.
Get a road car, put on the thickest PPF and a set of beaten up rims for your trackday tires. Fit some bucket seats, harnesses and suitable pads and you should be ready to go.
40k GBP buys a lot of fuel, track time, tyres etc.
I would also do this, but for an 80k car I wouldn't even bother with the PPF! Recaro seats, Thorney harness bar, and shims for some extra negative camber.Importing the GT4 to the UK will cost you import duty and then VAT. If it's a company purchase you could reclaim the VAT.
Get a road car, put on the thickest PPF and a set of beaten up rims for your trackday tires. Fit some bucket seats, harnesses and suitable pads and you should be ready to go.
40k GBP buys a lot of fuel, track time, tyres etc.
But will the cost of PPF be repaid when it comes to sell the car? 24 months regular track use is going to leave a lot of stone chips - there's hardly a day at the track where you don't get sprayed with gravel by a car ahead. Tire debris can also leave some nasty marks.
How much is a 570S that costs 80k with 43k road miles and extensive tracking going to be worth anyway??But will the cost of PPF be repaid when it comes to sell the car? 24 months regular track use is going to leave a lot of stone chips - there's hardly a day at the track where you don't get sprayed with gravel by a car ahead. Tire debris can also leave some nasty marks.
There are a few for sale in the UK, the one in the link was just because it looks amazing in orange so it really sells the car well lolImporting the GT4 to the UK will cost you import duty and then VAT. If it's a company purchase you could reclaim the VAT.
Get a road car, put on the thickest PPF and a set of beaten up rims for your trackday tires. Fit some bucket seats, harnesses and suitable pads and you should be ready to go.
40k GBP buys a lot of fuel, track time, tyres etc.
What brand of seats fit into mclaren without too much in the way of adapters?
Go drive a 570SGT4 and your mind will be made up. While they are low on power a well set up one drives amazing. Quite a bit better than a 570S. Keep in mind you will need to buy support equipment $30K+ to run the car. + another $30K + year in consumables + a Trailer + a vehicle to haul it, or pay to keep it at a track. After you drive one you will agree that the extra costs are well worth it. BTW. you can always buy down pipes another ECU and plug it in to run 600+ HP once you figure out how to drive the car.
Good point, I will have time in a GT4 r8 at the end of this year so i may hold off till then. The team who owns the car are no longer running it GT4 so I may try and get driver tuition moved forward if possibleGo drive a 570SGT4 and your mid will be made up. While they are low on power a well set up one drives amazing. Quite a bit better than a 570S. Keep in mind you will need to buy support equipment $30K+ to run the car. + another $30K + year in consumables + a Trailer + a vehicle to haul it, or pay to keep it at a track. After you drive on you will agree that the extra costs are well worth it. BTW. you can always buy down pipes another ECU and plug it in to run 600+ HP once you figure out how to drive the car.
A couple of folks have commented on the lower power of the GT4 (it is very noticeable) but I was told by factory folks that reflashing the ECU is all it takes to bring the GT4 back up to street car power levels. The reduced power is only required if you are going to run it in an FIA GT4 race. I have tracked a 2017 570S regularly since I bought it in 2018. Previous owner had already added the 675 Track Pack seats,
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harness and harness bar, converted the CC rotors to steel, changed to track pads, and installed high temp brake fluid. I love being able to push it to the limit on the track and drive it to a Cars & Coffee event. When I take it to a C&C with all the rubber marble smears and brake dust from a track day still all over the car, I get cheers and compliments about "someone who actually drives their supercar". Remember that the factory warranty will cover track use (at least it does in the US) whereas the GT4 has no warranty (I think). My big disappointment was that the extended warranty sold to me by the dealer does not cover track use
harness and harness bar, converted the CC rotors to steel, changed to track pads, and installed high temp brake fluid. I love being able to push it to the limit on the track and drive it to a Cars & Coffee event. When I take it to a C&C with all the rubber marble smears and brake dust from a track day still all over the car, I get cheers and compliments about "someone who actually drives their supercar". Remember that the factory warranty will cover track use (at least it does in the US) whereas the GT4 has no warranty (I think). My big disappointment was that the extended warranty sold to me by the dealer does not cover track use
Forgot to mention the pesky pitlane speed limiter button on the GT4 steering wheel that I accidently hit on track a couple of times. Have you considered a 675 or 620?
GT4 in-car video (after only 30 minutes of time at a new-to-me track)
Giving a ride at my local track
I have a strong dislike for Lightning… It gets really dangerous on a bike once you start to get below a certain lap time. Thunderbolt is my home track, I love it.Giving a ride at my local track
My bike experience is severely limited although I did take the Yamaha School at NJMP (1 day at each track) with my brother. He rides and used to track his bikes regularly and I told him the only place I'd ride with him was on the trackI have a strong dislike for Lightning… It gets really dangerous on a bike once you start to get below a certain lap time. Thunderbolt is my home track, I love it.
In a car I like both Lightning and Thunderbolt. I really wish they had put in those connectors (to make one large track) like they showed in the early track maps. When they announced that they would be building it, I was afraid it would be as flat as the Pocono infield, but they did a good job with modest elevation changes
If you bought the McLaren extended warranty, it DOES include track use.A couple of folks have commented on the lower power of the GT4 (it is very noticeable) but I was told by factory folks that reflashing the ECU is all it takes to bring the GT4 back up to street car power levels. The reduced power is only required if you are going to run it in an FIA GT4 race. I have tracked a 2017 570S regularly since I bought it in 2018. Previous owner had already added the 675 Track Pack seats, View attachment 229669
harness and harness bar, converted the CC rotors to steel, changed to track pads, and installed high temp brake fluid. I love being able to push it to the limit on the track and drive it to a Cars & Coffee event. When I take it to a C&C with all the rubber marble smears and brake dust from a track day still all over the car, I get cheers and compliments about "someone who actually drives their supercar". Remember that the factory warranty will cover track use (at least it does in the US) whereas the GT4 has no warranty (I think). My big disappointment was that the extended warranty sold to me by the dealer does not cover track use
I have a friend that swaps between ECU's on his 570SGT4. You can do it at the track with no issues. Stock, then M Engineering. You can also buy the Trophy ECU from McLaren for the 570S HP. Learning to drive the Lower HP car for a year will make you a much better driver. Most people will never approach 8:10ths with any car on the track. The low HP Spec is faster than most Street Cars around COTA. Ie. 570SGT4 will do a 2:18 with a really good driver. A 657LT will do a 2:16 on slicks with more the 200 more HP.
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