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I've been asked quite a few questions about the Nav features in the new 2014 system so I'm starting a new thread to try to clarify a few points and post some screen shots. Of course I expect that you will have a few questions of your own.

For previously asked questions and some background info start reading here first:
http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/m...tem-photos-first-impressions-4.html#post52925

I made one comment in that thread that I now need to clarify:
"There is no traffic function in the GPS. None that I can see in the menu system anyway"
I can still see no traffic info displayed on the GPS but I did find an item in the Visual Guidance Settings menu that reads "Offer Congestion Detour on Highways". After looking it up in the IRIS user guide, no explanation was given. I also noticed that there is an item "Traffic" listed in the guide but this has been removed from the car's Nav Options menu. Does it mean that it could not be implemented for now but is a possible option in the future?

Another question was asked concerning the Maps app integration with navigation. I since had a chance to look at it in a bit more detail. You can think of the Maps app as a Google Map shortcut. You can search the Maps app like you can search Google Map on your PC or Mac. Because the GPS is very limiting in how it allows you to search, the Maps app gives you a much more flexible approach. So once you find what you are looking for in the Maps app you are offered 3 options: An address, a phone number and Weather. (Pic 1)

You can tap the displayed phone number to call, tap the address to navigate or tap Weather to get... the weather (Pic 2). The interesting part is the navigate option. Once you tap on the address you are offered two options (Pic 3): using the on-board GPS or using the Maps app (with the traffic information displayed on the map).

If you choose the GPS option, IRIS loads the address into the car GPS and it all works flawlessly. I haven't tried navigation with the Maps app yet, expect more info on that soon.

The Nav display is excellent. Picture 4 was shot with the sun coming from the side with no problem. Of course if the sun is shining directly from overhead, you need to shield the display to read it. I don't know of any screen that you don't need to do this.

Compared to the 5" display of my latest Garmin GPS (Nüvi 3580LMT) I must say that the IRIS display is better. The information is bigger, better laid out and it is very easy to configure what gets shown on screen. I really like the little progress bar located along the left side of the screen showing the relative distance traveled to destination and / or waypoints. (Pic 4) The 3 data fields at the bottom of the screen can be customized at will. Just tap any one of them to get a pop up with all the data items available for display.

One minor gripe I have is that you cannot input geographical coordinates. It's not an option that I would use often but I find it useful when I just can't find the address of a remote destination, like a cottage up north that I rented a few summers back. The owner provided me with the lat and long but I wouldn't have been able to use it with this system.

I hope that you find this information useful.

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I've been asked quite a few questions about the Nav features in the new 2014 system so I'm starting a new thread to try to clarify a few points and post some screen shots. Of course I expect that you will have a few questions of your own.

For previously asked questions and some background info start reading here first:
http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/m...tem-photos-first-impressions-4.html#post52925

I made one comment in that thread that I now need to clarify:
"There is no traffic function in the GPS. None that I can see in the menu system anyway"
I can still see no traffic info displayed on the GPS but I did find an item in the Visual Guidance Settings menu that reads "Offer Congestion Detour on Highways". After looking it up in the IRIS user guide, no explanation was given. I also noticed that there is an item "Traffic" listed in the guide but this has been removed from the car's Nav Options menu. Does it mean that it could not be implemented for now but is a possible option in the future?

Another question was asked concerning the Maps app integration with navigation. I since had a chance to look at it in a bit more detail. You can think of the Maps app as a Google Map shortcut. You can search the Maps app like you can search Google Map on your PC or Mac. Because the GPS is very limiting in how it allows you to search, the Maps app gives you a much more flexible approach. So once you find what you are looking for in the Maps app you are offered 3 options: An address, a phone number and Weather. (Pic 1)

You can tap the displayed phone number to call, tap the address to navigate or tap Weather to get... the weather (Pic 2). The interesting part is the navigate option. Once you tap on the address you are offered two options (Pic 3): using the on-board GPS or using the Maps app (with the traffic information displayed on the map).

If you choose the GPS option, IRIS loads the address into the car GPS and it all works flawlessly. I haven't tried navigation with the Maps app yet, expect more info on that soon.

The Nav display is excellent. Picture 4 was shot with the sun coming from the side with no problem. Of course if the sun is shining directly from overhead, you need to shield the display to read it. I don't know of any screen that you don't need to do this.

Compared to the 5" display of my latest Garmin GPS (Nüvi 3580LMT) I must say that the IRIS display is better. The information is bigger, better laid out and it is very easy to configure what gets shown on screen. I really like the little progress bar located along the left side of the screen showing the relative distance traveled to destination and / or waypoints. (Pic 4) The 3 data fields at the bottom of the screen can be customized at will. Just tap any one of them to get a pop up with all the data items available for display.

One minor gripe I have is that you cannot input geographical coordinates. It's not an option that I would use often but I find it useful when I just can't find the address of a remote destination, like a cottage up north that I rented a few summers back. The owner provided me with the lat and long but I wouldn't have been able to use it with this system.

I hope that you find this information useful.

Cheers.
Thx for the info.

I am wondering what a european owner of the new system will report re traffic in the nav system. Considering I have not had any traffic displayed reliably in any of my cars in quebec anywhere between 2010 and 2012 I do not find it shocking that it does not work in this one either.

However, traffic display via TMC in europe is very standard in many countries and works completely different than in North america. Wondering if the new nav supports it. Hope to hear from a EU owner soon. If not, I will report once I get my upgrade.

Maps/Nav integration sounds great. But as I said before, considering this is an android based system done by Parrot, you can expect a lot of neat additions in the near future I am sure.
 

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Labeille, thanks so much for this.

I could swear the graphics on this look *very* much like Navigon. Navigon is a fantastic app for android/iphone (now owned by Garmin). Although I generally prefer the actual maps best from iOS Maps/Navigation (it's the only app I know that displays roads at realistic widths rather than a mishmash of lines, which makes it easier to take a complicated exit (lots of those in NYC/NJ)), the Navigon cartoon exits, are the next best I've seen.

Better still, Navigon has, by far, the most accurate traffic avoidance I've ever used. Better and more timely than even Google Maps. So, if this is a Navigon variant, that's great news. And regardless, just those few features are really big step up.
 

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I've been asked quite a few questions about the Nav features in the new 2014 system so I'm starting a new thread to try to clarify a few points and post some screen shots. Of course I expect that you will have a few questions of your own.

For previously asked questions and some background info start reading here first:
http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/m...tem-photos-first-impressions-4.html#post52925

I made one comment in that thread that I now need to clarify:
"There is no traffic function in the GPS. None that I can see in the menu system anyway"
I can still see no traffic info displayed on the GPS but I did find an item in the Visual Guidance Settings menu that reads "Offer Congestion Detour on Highways". After looking it up in the IRIS user guide, no explanation was given. I also noticed that there is an item "Traffic" listed in the guide but this has been removed from the car's Nav Options menu. Does it mean that it could not be implemented for now but is a possible option in the future?

Another question was asked concerning the Maps app integration with navigation. I since had a chance to look at it in a bit more detail. You can think of the Maps app as a Google Map shortcut. You can search the Maps app like you can search Google Map on your PC or Mac. Because the GPS is very limiting in how it allows you to search, the Maps app gives you a much more flexible approach. So once you find what you are looking for in the Maps app you are offered 3 options: An address, a phone number and Weather. (Pic 1)

You can tap the displayed phone number to call, tap the address to navigate or tap Weather to get... the weather (Pic 2). The interesting part is the navigate option. Once you tap on the address you are offered two options (Pic 3): using the on-board GPS or using the Maps app (with the traffic information displayed on the map).

If you choose the GPS option, IRIS loads the address into the car GPS and it all works flawlessly. I haven't tried navigation with the Maps app yet, expect more info on that soon.

The Nav display is excellent. Picture 4 was shot with the sun coming from the side with no problem. Of course if the sun is shining directly from overhead, you need to shield the display to read it. I don't know of any screen that you don't need to do this.

Compared to the 5" display of my latest Garmin GPS (Nüvi 3580LMT) I must say that the IRIS display is better. The information is bigger, better laid out and it is very easy to configure what gets shown on screen. I really like the little progress bar located along the left side of the screen showing the relative distance traveled to destination and / or waypoints. (Pic 4) The 3 data fields at the bottom of the screen can be customized at will. Just tap any one of them to get a pop up with all the data items available for display.

One minor gripe I have is that you cannot input geographical coordinates. It's not an option that I would use often but I find it useful when I just can't find the address of a remote destination, like a cottage up north that I rented a few summers back. The owner provided me with the lat and long but I wouldn't have been able to use it with this system.

I hope that you find this information useful.

Cheers.
Certainly chalk and cheese with the old system Michel which is great. The old system was usable but this looks much more like what were looking for! You're lucky to have the new system but in some senses unlucky as we're all going to pester you for more updates,.. Really appreciate the time you've taken to share and explain... Thank you
 

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I can still see no traffic info displayed on the GPS but I did find an item in the Visual Guidance Settings menu that reads "Offer Congestion Detour on Highways". After looking it up in the IRIS user guide, no explanation was given. I also noticed that there is an item "Traffic" listed in the guide but this has been removed from the car's Nav Options menu. Does it mean that it could not be implemented for now but is a possible option in the future?

Cheers.
Quest regarding "traffic": I'm guessing you've tethered your phone and still didn't see the "Traffic" listed. Wondering if that might only be available when you're tethered to data source, and if not, if the system would just hid the option?

Also, can you confirm if your system comes with some cellular connectivity and if so, is there some plan/monthly payment? I'm assuming when you use GoogleMaps or the web browser that you had your phone tethered, but perhaps not, and there is just built in cellular?

Thanks again Labeille!
 

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Thx for the info.

I am wondering what a european owner of the new system will report re traffic in the nav system. Considering I have not had any traffic displayed reliably in any of my cars in quebec anywhere between 2010 and 2012 I do not find it shocking that it does not work in this one either.

However, traffic display via TMC in europe is very standard in many countries and works completely different than in North america. Wondering if the new nav supports it. Hope to hear from a EU owner soon. If not, I will report once I get my upgrade.
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Just to make it clear. At the moment there is NO traffic reporting in the current IRIS system. I doubt very much that you will have one in your upgrade.

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I could swear the graphics on this look *very* much like Navigon. Navigon is a fantastic app for android/iphone (now owned by Garmin). Although I generally prefer the actual maps best from iOS Maps/Navigation (it's the only app I know that displays roads at realistic widths rather than a mishmash of lines, which makes it easier to take a complicated exit (lots of those in NYC/NJ)), the Navigon cartoon exits, are the next best I've seen.
Agreed, on the screens it very much looks like a Navigon based nav app which is a good thing. They might have rather crap standalone units but overall good software.



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Quest regarding "traffic": I'm guessing you've tethered your phone and still didn't see the "Traffic" listed. Wondering if that might only be available when you're tethered to data source, and if not, if the system would just hid the option?

Also, can you confirm if your system comes with some cellular connectivity and if so, is there some plan/monthly payment? I'm assuming when you use GoogleMaps or the web browser that you had your phone tethered, but perhaps not, and there is just built in cellular?

Thanks again Labeille!
As I mentionned before there is no cellular system in the car. It's all done through tethering. When I checked the menu options I was tethered via Blutooth to the phone and the "Traffic" option was not there.

I have not used Google Maps on the phone. Everything I've described has been accessed through the Maps App built in IRIS, which is basicaly a web browser with only one page, Google Map Portable with IRIS interface. The raw data is pulled via the cellular data of the phone.

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Better still, Navigon has, by far, the most accurate traffic avoidance I've ever used. Better and more timely than even Google Maps. So, if this is a Navigon variant, that's great news. And regardless, just those few features are really big step up.
jkheit: if you haven't tried it yet, give Waze a shot. I find it is amazing in the NY metro area. It uses real time user data (passive and active) to compute route optimization. In NYC itself, it is pretty astounding.
 

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Certainly chalk and cheese with the old system Michel which is great. The old system was usable but this looks much more like what were looking for! You're lucky to have the new system but in some senses unlucky as we're all going to pester you for more updates,.. Really appreciate the time you've taken to share and explain... Thank you
Lucky indeed and no problem Michael, it's my pleasure to keep you guys informed, when I get the time. Going for a ride soon, it's beautiful out there. I'll give navigating on the Maps app a try and report back later.

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jkheit: if you haven't tried it yet, give Waze a shot. I find it is amazing in the NY metro area. It uses real time user data (passive and active) to compute route optimization. In NYC itself, it is pretty astounding.
Will do, thanks JP!

Now I wish someone would make the perfect Nav. Graphics from apple Maps. Traffic (apparently from Waze). Local stored maps. Like Navigon. But continuously updated. Like no one! While I'm wishing, I'd like it to incorporate Escort Live/Trapster traps and even route around them. :)
 

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jkheit: if you haven't tried it yet, give Waze a shot. I find it is amazing in the NY metro area. It uses real time user data (passive and active) to compute route optimization. In NYC itself, it is pretty astounding.

And Waze exists for the Parrot unit which is the new one in the 12C! ;)
 

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jkheit: if you haven't tried it yet, give Waze a shot. I find it is amazing in the NY metro area. It uses real time user data (passive and active) to compute route optimization. In NYC itself, it is pretty astounding.
+1 to that... used it in central Europe mainly without hitch... Eta prediction best I've ever seen.., the real time data on traffic through user gps speed and manual reports by users makes it awesome., we tried to go around Milan during rush hour. Changed the route a bunch of times and got us where we needed on time. Including getting us to use a tiny local ferry...

Only small (big!) issue was some significant map errors. Didn't seem to have any roads up to the Simplon pass to back between Italy and Swiss..

But overall its excellent and definitely the way forward.
 

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Will do, thanks JP!

Now I wish someone would make the perfect Nav. Graphics from apple Maps. Traffic (apparently from Waze). Local stored maps. Like Navigon. But continuously updated. Like no one! While I'm wishing, I'd like it to incorporate Escort Live/Trapster traps and even route around them. :)
Waze has speedtraps also at least in Europe. User updated also., plus notifications when there's a cop hiding round the corner
 

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As I mentionned before there is no cellular system in the car. It's all done through tethering. When I checked the menu options I was tethered via Blutooth to the phone and the "Traffic" option was not there.

I have not used Google Maps on the phone. Everything I've described has been accessed through the Maps App built in IRIS, which is basicaly a web browser with only one page, Google Map Portable with IRIS interface. The raw data is pulled via the cellular data of the phone.

Cheers.
Got it. Thanks Labeille.
 

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I'll have to give that Waze a try. Sounds real good.

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Thanks for the extra shots + info Labeille! Can't wait to get it in my own car :)
 

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Did anybody get dealer information about the availability and cost of retrofiting the new unit in the 2012 cars?
 
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