[constanelli3]

I kept telling myself "Don't get near that MP 4 , you need that car like you need another hole in your head. Plus it will be a stretch to afford the the car". Well I drove it and it's pretty much a forgone conclusion I'll get it. Life is short....and it's always been a financial stretch to acquire any of the other exotics I've owned.
My question is...does anyone know what the changes will be to the 2013 model year cars? My dealer said the 2013 models will built in the fall of this year.
With warmest regards,
Constanelli ( this is my first thread...I'm a newbie to this forum)

 

[Sld7]

I am also interested in this and are considering ordering a new 2013 but my dealer does not know if their will any changes or when orders can be submitted.

 

[carbon.blades]

I recently test drove the 12C in Germany and I inquired about the 2013 models. I was told information just came out that the 2013 models will have a power increase (about 615hp) along with a few other changes. He couldn't speak for US models, but in Europe 2012's will also be upgraded for a small fee.

 

[andy c]

As Ron has PROMISED,any model year will be filtered down to the year below,all cars will be upgraded to the current spec so you can buy when it suits you
The only difference will be the annual price increase!!

 

[HyperMac954]

Like Andy said, only differences will be software based, and will be offered to all current cars as well. Unless you're talking about the one where they cut the roof off :~)>

 

[dennis]

I heard from the #2 in NA sales that the 2013 models will have hardware (antenna) to support satellite radio in Iris. They are NOT planning to retrofit this to 2012 models.

 

[bruce]

Yes they are was told this by Mclaren yesterday

 

[bruce]

I recently test drove the 12C in Germany and I inquired about the 2013 models. I was told information just came out that the 2013 models will have a power increase (about 615hp) along with a few other changes. He couldn't speak for US models, but in Europe 2012's will also be upgraded for a small fee.

No there is no charge in UK

 

[360]

If the marketing department can get their act together and get this information in the motoring press and on sites like pistonheads Teamspeed etc this free upgrade along with the 15% price hike would make the used examples look like a bargain compared to 2013MY

 

[LimeyBloke]

If the marketing department can get their act together and get this information in the motoring press and on sites like pistonheads Teamspeed etc this free upgrade along with the 15% price hike would make the used examples look like a bargain compared to 2013MY

Are you saying that the 2013MY price increase is $34,800 (that would be your stated 15%) !!
You must be mistaken.

 

[bruce]

It's 12000 -15000 GbP from October1st

 

[LimeyBloke]

It's 12000 -15000 GbP from October1st

15000GbP / 23000USD ....
That's still a whopper of a price increase in one year!! Isn't that a bit outlandish, even for an exotic car company ?
I'm not so certain this will help the sales of a relatively new (to the market) car, in such a weak economy.

 

[360]

15000GbP / 23000USD ....
That's still a whopper of a price increase in one year!! Isn't that a bit outlandish, even for an exotic car company ?
I'm not so certain this will help the sales of a relatively new (to the market) car, in such a weak economy.

It will include Iris as standard which was about £5K "cumpulsory option " in UK

 

[LimeyBloke]

It will include Iris as standard which was about £5K "cumpulsory option " in UK

Big deal, lol. Under this type of marketing ploy, they can make ALL of the 12C's options 'standard', jacking the list price into Aventador territory!
The 12C is a very, very nice automobile, but most reviewers (and buyers, I've talked with) have stated (like it, or not) that it's styling is phlegmatic. (Although, I myself find it quite appealing.)
Once it's MSRP is nibbling at the heels of the more charismatically styled exotic vehicles, it might make for a tougher sell.
At this rate, when the convertible comes on line what the heck will it's MSRP be ??

 

[6th element]

The 12C is a very, very nice automobile, but most reviewers (and buyers, I've talked with) have stated (like it, or not) that it's styling is phlegmatic.

Yeah right. Somebody should tell the general public then. With all the people taking pics of my phlegmatic car and chasing me to get video, it would make my commute a little easier. C'mon get real, they haven't sold over a thousand of these things because they are boring.

 

[constanelli3]

I can tell you with great certainty that a $30,000+ price increase for MY 2013 in the U.S. will have a huge negativel impact on sales. There are several dealers that I've spoken with that have at least two unsold cars in stock, It's even more amazing that there would be such a notable price increase ,considering the economy,the fact that there are numerous "issues" regarding quality, and the fact demand is not exceeding supply. You can order a 2012 in the Chicago area and expect delivery at the end of the summer.....not exactly Ferrari wait time. I simply can't believe McClaren would make a mistake like this, while trying to get their foot in the exotic car market door.

 

[ergoproxy]

Perhaps McLaren is thinking it's foot is already in the door with the storied F1. Concerning hubris, but I consider early 458 comparisons and other minor teething issues inconsequential. The 12C was never trying to beat the 458 in drama or aesthetics.

A $30k price increase would not influence my order. There is still a lot of applied tech for the dollar. I wonder, what is the time line for return of capital? No way McLaren is making money on the 12C. It may however pave the way for a lot of other superb cars.

Both Ferrari and VW have bared their throats, one with a marriage to aluminum and the other with plans to market a redundant R8, Gallardo, and new mid engine flat six. All three are to be built on one generic platform, per VW's "Strategy 2018".

 

[dennis]

I can tell you with great certainty that a $30,000+ price increase for MY 2013 in the U.S. will have a huge negativel impact on sales.

I believe the original talk on this forum was that there was going to be a 7% price increase for MY2013. That would be +$16K to an MSRP of $245K. You can't just convert UK pricing to US $ to come up with US pricing.

 

[Jerry]

The 12C is a very, very nice automobile, but most reviewers (and buyers, I've talked with) have stated (like it, or not) that it's styling is phlegmatic. (Although, I myself find it quite appealing.)

I've had many, many passengers and the general public describe my car as amazing, gorgeous, crazy, unbelievable, desirable (the list is a long one) but never has anyone chosen to use the the words phlegmatic or unemotional. I suspect most (all?) of the owners on this site experience a similar thing.

Surely it's only the UK press using such terms and they are gradually starting to realise they may have got it wrong?

 

[andy c]

I believe the original talk on this forum was that there was going to be a 7% price increase for MY2013. That would be +$16K to an MSRP of $245K. You can't just convert UK pricing to US $ to come up with US pricing.

i would think as the IRIS is standard anyway the real price rise in the states will be $10 to$12k,dont get your knickers in a twist,you are still paying alot less or it in the states.one of the reasons its happeneing in the UK is to protect secondhand prices as they are also reducing supply,this is because they had such along waiting time for the first cars they over produced in the uk market for the first 6 months,this in the end had a detrimental effect as some of the cars were speculators,then the economy crashed putting too many on the market.
This seems the best move for everyone,reducing supply and putting up the price,which will make the secondhand cars a bargin in time and push up residuals,they need this to keep current customers on board.
The rest of the world can suck up supply as they are opening in new regions ,it must be a difficult juggling everyone to keep a new company moving forward,but given the initial problems i think they are reacting postitivly.
Plus its not just a price rise for the same car,its got more tech and more power,its just we get it as well