[roundincircles]

I'm so pleased I bought a Mclaren. It is a true high performance car.

A remarkable achievement for a first attempt in a new factory with a new team.

My background is motorcycles (15,000 miles a year) and mainly non-turbo 911's. plus a Q5 as a daily drive.

The MP12 astonishes me with it's explosive and continual thrust and is the closest to a motorcycle in overtake ability. I have recalibrated my overtakes but have been concerned that other road users will not expect a car to come by.......remember in the UK the roads are narrow if you want to avoid heavy traffic.It is such a strong engine and goads you into speeds that ......well constantly surprise. Fantastic fun.

The engine will deliver what you request with your right foot, fast and slow and anything in between as the fuelling, when warm, is pretty good. It returned 28 mpg on an 80 mile trip around the M25 today, 19 mpg overall and 15 mpg in town with 7 to 15 mpg when driven as it should be.

I was prepared to dislike the loss of a stick shift but have realised that the paddles are the future for quick and precise gear changes. It is a great box albeit some software development in low gear auto mode will improve it. The speed of changes is impressive and allows more focus on placing the car and reading the road.

Can't make my mind up regarding the iron brakes and need more screen time. Certainly the low speed modulation could be better as the peddle needs a fairly heavy foot but the high speed retardation is good.

I have been impressed by the dash board controls and information, very clear graphics and information but I would like miles to empty!

The ride quality continues to astound me and I struggle with the straight line plushness......it's not like any other bone jarring high performance car. The cornering capability is way beyond anything this side of a TGV train and I would welcome some instruction and or track time to get up the learning curve.

Niggles. The bloody door closure which was adjusted today and made a huge difference......just a small adjustment to the strike plate on both doors.

The front wheels machine gun the paint so a full wrap is essential in my view. The paint chips easily.

I go to the West Coast of Scotland during the last week of March so hopefully will progress up the learning curve on traffic free roads.

 

[texas mongrel]

Congrats RIC
As we are all finding out, this car is the real deal
Interesting about the door adjustment, I might just head out to the garage now with my trusty Philips screwdriver...

 

[scottishxj220]

Pop in by Aberdeen on your way back down

 

[falb]

Fuel range can be selcted to be shown on the home screen. I made that change as well.

Of course with all this driving the fuel tank seems too small. Given the rigth attitude a tank is gone in less than a day Actually the 15+US gallon tank is good.

Range​

Range is the estimated distance until the​

vehicle requires refuelling.

Fuel tank​

Total capacity 15.8 gal.
(72 litres)
Capacity remaining when low
level lamp illuminates
2.4 UK gal.​

(11 litres)

 

[6th element]

Congrats RIC
As we are all finding out, this car is the real deal
Interesting about the door adjustment, I might just head out to the garage now with my trusty Philips screwdriver...

Glad to hear you guys are just as thrilled with the 12C as I thought you'd be. Good thing, too, as I am sure that Andy and I would have run out of superlatives eventually.

Just came back from a West Coast trip - away from my car for 9 days and it was torture. The only thing worse than the anticipation of delivery is the agony of having to leave it when you already have it. If it wasn't for a drop-in visit to McLaren Beverly Hills, I might have gone insane.

Been thinking a lot lately about how all these technologies work together and specifically the market timing of this car... small displacement turbo, carbon chassis, hydraulic suspension. I'm pretty sure that we are witnessing a redefinition of the performance car. I believe that in a few years time, we will look back at the 12C as analogous to what the BMW M5 did for sedans. Different segment, but I think the significance will be similar.

 

[dennis]

I'm pretty sure that we are witnessing a redefinition of the performance car. I believe that in a few years time, we will look back at the 12C as analogous to what the BMW M5 did for sedans. Different segment, but I think the significance will be similar.

Having owned 2 M5's and now the 12C, I couldn't agree more!

 

[falb]

a 540-6 and two M5's here as well....great minds think alike

 

[roundincircles]

falb. Give me a reality check. To me the MP12 has a ballistic power delivery with continual drive/thrust. Your list of cars includes some special mounts.

What would you say is game changing if you were artificially restricted to 3 choices?

 

[dennis]

a 540-6 and two M5's here as well....great minds think alike

Right. I almost forgot I had a '98 540-6.

 

[roundincircles]

Now I am well over a 1000 miles so I opened up the revs in the Spring sunshine today and was just flabbergasted at the ballistic reaction......stunned and I am still stunned. I don't know what elastic band Ron requested the engineers to build but boy does it deliver!

You do need to be circumspect on public roads with this amazing car.

On the way home I had to put 95 Ron fuel in as higher octane was sold out. It still went like stink and I could tell no difference compared to the expensive fuel........can anyone feel a performance difference with 95 fuel?

 

[360]

Now I am well over a 1000 miles so I opened up the revs in the Spring sunshine today and was just flabbergasted at the ballistic reaction......stunned and I am still stunned. I don't know what elastic band Ron requested the engineers to build but boy does it deliver!

You do need to be circumspect on public roads with this amazing car.

On the way home I had to put 95 Ron fuel in as higher octane was sold out. It still went like stink and I could tell no difference compared to the expensive fuel........can anyone feel a performance difference with 95 fuel?

UK fuel is of a good quality compared to many countries around the world so the engine map should be wide enough to cope well with 95 Ron fuel. The only thing I have noticed is if filling up with the dearer stuff I tend to sit lower in the car afterwards as my wallet is that much thinner. No doubt there is a slight performance difference but alot is down to marketing hype i'm sure

 

[6th element]

The only thing I have noticed is if filling up with the dearer stuff I tend to sit lower in the car afterwards as my wallet is that much thinner.

....

 

[roundincircles]

UK fuel is of a good quality compared to many countries around the world so the engine map should be wide enough to cope well with 95 Ron fuel. The only thing I have noticed is if filling up with the dearer stuff I tend to sit lower in the car afterwards as my wallet is that much thinner. No doubt there is a slight performance difference but alot is down to marketing hype i'm sure

Never thought of that, lighter wallet, means more stops at cash machines but also faster 0-60 times!

But the 95 Ron seemed OK.Probably someone is going to point out 97plus Ron has cleaning agents that remove carbons and bad stuff.

 

[6th element]

Now I am well over a 1000 miles so I opened up the revs in the Spring sunshine today and was just flabbergasted at the ballistic reaction......stunned and I am still stunned. I don't know what elastic band Ron requested the engineers to build but boy does it deliver!

That's turbo power for ya. Let a buddy of mine have a go yesterday that is a formula racer and driving coach (so he has driven every modern sport car). He thought previously that a Turbo S pulled hard for a road car, but after my car he said the only thing he's ever driven that is so relentless in every gear is an Indy Lights formula race car. And I still have the winter tires on!

 

[falb]

falb. Give me a reality check. To me the MP12 has a ballistic power delivery with continual drive/thrust. Your list of cars includes some special mounts.

What would you say is game changing if you were artificially restricted to 3 choices?

RIC, Not exactly sure what the question is. Perhaps Ron said it best....The 12C will lap any road course in the world faster than the F1.

 

[falb]

as for the octane MON/RON rating... Please use the high test stuff, the car knows and will give you more smiles.

 

[andy c]

as for the octane MON/RON rating... Please use the high test stuff, the car knows and will give you more smiles.

I should use it more,but use 3 tanks of standard to 1 of super,super when i want a real blast,i cannot help the yorkshire in me at $10 a gallon

 

[roundincircles]

Andy, I think Yorkshire is migrating South!

 

[Moncho]

I should use it more,but use 3 tanks of standard to 1 of super,super when i want a real blast,i cannot help the yorkshire in me at $10 a gallon

Yikes!!! Can't believe I've been complaining of $4 a gallon gas

 

[roundincircles]

Yikes!!! Can't believe I've been complaining of $4 a gallon gas

That's why we rob Banks!

Last week I filled my motorbike up, $50, a motorbike! My daily car costs $150.