[Mark ANTAR]

Quattroruote just reported that the 12C (Spider) has demolished the current lap record at the Vairano Handling Course.

Other lap times:
2. Radical SR3 SL (Road-legal version) 1:12.98
3. Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 1:13.86
4. Ferrari F12 Berlinetta 1:14.08


Watch the video here: http://www.quattroruote.it/notizie/eventi/mclaren-12c-spider-nuovo-record-a-vairano-video

 

[Russell996]

1:12.91

 

[Champagne612]

In a Spider?

Amazing!

 

[Mark ANTAR]

In a Spider?

Amazing!

They just said 12C, but from looking at the video, you can see one of the buttresses.

Here's a screenshot:

 

[Russell996]

Agreed. Spider in caption and picture.

 

[andy c]

That was Emotional !!! Sorry I meant fast

 

[6th element]

That was Emotional !!! Sorry I meant fast

LOL, I shed a tear too, watching that car beat up apexes like a drunken step-dad.

Looks like he has grip to spare in those tires... hmmmm....

 

[Bob5]

LOL, I shed a tear too, watching that car beat up apexes like a drunken step-dad.

Looks like he has grip to spare in those tires... hmmmm....

Your suspicion regarding the tires might be correct, but I was struck with how smooth all his steering inputs were. Go back and look at all the car mag videos of the 12C on the track and the drivers are almost violently jerking the wheel back and forth multiple times coming out of a hard turn. Almost none of this in this video. Maybe the driver was a guy who took the time to learn how to drive the car and went out with the sole purpose of achieving the fastest lap time possible versus getting into a debate with himself about "am I driving this car or is it driving itself, blah, blah, blah, this feels artificial, blah, blah, blah, this car won't do what I want it to, blah, blah, blah"

 

[6th element]

Your suspicion regarding the tires might be correct, but I was struck with how smooth all his steering inputs were. Go back and look at all the car mag videos of the 12C on the track and the drivers are almost violently jerking the wheel back and forth multiple times coming out of a hard turn. Almost none of this in this video. Maybe the driver was a guy who took the time to learn how to drive the car and went out with the sole purpose of achieving the fastest lap time possible versus getting into a debate with himself about "am I driving this car or is it driving itself, blah, blah, blah, this feels artificial, blah, blah, blah, this car won't do what I want it to, blah, blah, blah"

Yeah, he is super smooth. I would put it down to him knowing the circuit inside out. But seeing as how an upgraded coupe should technically be even quicker, that lap time is:

 

[TAG]

Gocart,

track, nevertheless it's impressive indeed.

Can't wait for what sort of laptime a 12C GT3 S could achieve on a track? Not to mention the P1, La Ferrari or the Porsche 918!?

 

[ZachF]

lol, over a second faster than the F12, in a convertible no less...

 

[Markjayw]

lol, over a second faster than the F12, in a convertible no less...

The F12 is not a track oriented car, it is a high speed GT. Curious to how the 12C would stack up against it in a 60-130 or similar rolling race.

 

[6th element]

The F12 is not a track oriented car, it is a high speed GT. Curious to how the 12C would stack up against it in a 60-130 or similar rolling race.

Funny, Ferrari flaunts its lap time around Fiorano in their marketing. Curious to how the 12C would stack up around Fiorano.

 

[andy c]

Funny, Ferrari flaunts its lap time around Fiorano in their marketing. Curious to how the 12C would stack up around Fiorano.

Why curious? It wouldn't do to having it sit on top of all those other one-make cars,would look silly in their marketing
Correction,there is a 959 somewhere there,but that's too obvious a reason !!

 

[LimeyBloke]

Not too shabby.

 

[ergoproxy]

Maybe the driver was a guy who took the time to learn how to drive the car and went out with the sole purpose of achieving the fastest lap time possible versus getting into a debate with himself about "am I driving this car or is it driving itself, blah, blah, blah, this feels artificial, blah, blah, blah, this car won't do what I want it to, blah, blah, blah"

Fabulous post. Attention car reviewers: Getting into a debate with yourselves reviews you, not the car. Physics is physics.

 

[noone1]

Lol almost two seconds faster than the MP4-12C coupè.

So cool, almost magic.

The life of a Ferrari troll. Disgruntled that the 12C even in convertible form is dominating. Updated coupe is probably even quicker.



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[Mark ANTAR]

Lol almost two seconds faster than the MP4-12C coupè.

So cool, almost magic.

But who's behind the wheel makes a lot of difference, especially on such tight circuit.

 

[Wtdoom]

Your suspicion regarding the tires might be correct, but I was struck with how smooth all his steering inputs were. Go back and look at all the car mag videos of the 12C on the track and the drivers are almost violently jerking the wheel back and forth multiple times coming out of a hard turn. Almost none of this in this video. Maybe the driver was a guy who took the time to learn how to drive the car and went out with the sole purpose of achieving the fastest lap time possible versus getting into a debate with himself about "am I driving this car or is it driving itself, blah, blah, blah, this feels artificial, blah, blah, blah, this car won't do what I want it to, blah, blah, blah"

Is the feel of a car , it's linearity of reaction , interaction etc REALLY unimportant to you?

 

[Russell996]

The life of a Ferrari troll. Disgruntled that the 12C even in convertible form is dominating. Updated coupe is probably even quicker.

It's a fair comment, I hadn't realised but a reduction of 2 seconds compared to the Coupe is huge - far more than the power hike would account for.
Spider: 1:12.91
Coupe: 1:14.81
Different Driver would make the difference, but I assume they are always testing using a very skilled driver, if not then these times are meaningless anyway! - so what is the story?