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What dies McLaren need to do to the 12C to turn it into a striped out track focused road racer (i.e the 12C Scud for lack of a better description).
Good question Scott,they should be able to find 50kg to ditch,add 50 hp (ala HS) and easily double the downforce and aero,they could even add some of the P1 track suspension,but that could be too expensive,and they probably want to keep that exclusive.
Either way they don't have to get carried away to be quicker than the scud,it depends if they want to crush it or just be a bit quicker.It could be a good ploy to crush it as I would think most Scud owners do track them and this would be the perfect advert for McLaren to be able to turn up at any track and dominate .
 

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I'd like to see better (nonceramic) brakes. The pads of course may squeal at street temps but cost and modulation advantages well worth it.
Surely software for trofeos or whatever the track junkies crave within the p brand.

I think maranello is wounded and therefore dangerous. Thus it'll take more than a power increase (just boost) and less weight to spank the 458 MC. I'm betting on transmission and adaptive susp changes--A preview of the 12C replacement, not a mere stripped 12C which would not be worth even $350k.

Harness and cage? Or does the carbon tub obviate that?

And no Doris please!
 

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What dies McLaren need to do to the 12C to turn it into a striped out track focused road racer (i.e the 12C Scud for lack of a better description).
All new bumpers / wider body / better grip / hp bump racing wheels aggressive exhaust stripped interior with race seats and steering wheel.
 

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Better seats, more lateral support, all carbon fiber, better non Pirelli tires.
 

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What dies McLaren need to do to the 12C to turn it into a striped out track focused road racer (i.e the 12C Scud for lack of a better description).
Wait for it until 2014. Probably the first vehicle to match or super seed the Pagani Huayra's 1:13.8 with ROADTIRES!

Count on a 30-40% price hike! :eek:
 

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Wait for it until 2014. Probably the first vehicle to match or super seed the Pagani Huayra's 1:13.8 with ROADTIRES!

Count on a 30-40% price hike! :eek:
You forgetting the P1 TAG ? before you question it,it will have road tyres :cool:
 

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You forgetting the P1 TAG ? before you question it,it will have road tyres :cool:
P1 is on a different planet when it comes to price and performance to the road vers of the GT3. I'm a devoted Porsche and McLaren sportscar fan, albeit loving Ferrari and Lamborghini cars aswell!


There is a certain aspect to the P1s 2.5 G..? That would mean laptimes similar to the FXX with... Superior performance at that point, but if i am correctly informed there is always something newer around the corner that's going to be even faster..... right:)
 

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P1 is on a different planet when it comes to price and performance to the road vers of the GT3. I'm a devoted Porsche and McLaren sportscar fan, albeit loving Ferrari and Lamborghini cars aswell!


There is a certain aspect to the P1s 2.5 G..? That would mean laptimes similar to the FXX with... Superior performance at that point, but if i am correctly informed there is always something newer around the corner that's going to be even faster..... right:)
Maybe in about 10 years, when the P1's successor is due ;)

I'm expecting 40 hp more, stiffer springs, revised hydraulic dampers, new bodywork with more downforce and cooling, stripped interior and ditched IRIS, ultra lightweight wheels and revised carbon ceramics using lessons from Akebono, stickier tires and revised electronics and transmission.
 

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Wait for it until 2014. Probably the first vehicle to match or super seed the Pagani Huayra's 1:13.8 with ROADTIRES!

Count on a 30-40% price hike! :eek:
Would be nice if the Huayra had used actual road tires...
 

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Maybe in about 10 years, when the P1's successor is due ;)

I'm expecting 40 hp more, stiffer springs, revised hydraulic dampers, new bodywork with more downforce and cooling, stripped interior and ditched IRIS, ultra lightweight wheels and revised carbon ceramics using lessons from Akebono, stickier tires and revised electronics and transmission.

About 15-25 examples of the McLaren LM version. Less weight, bump in bhp, improved dynamics, t/p aero setup etc. Lucky those who could purchase this beauty! Longtail version 2015.
 

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A set of Sparco CF buckets would be perfect. Drop about 100-150 kg of weight. Ditch IRIS and all the carpeting, CF Steering wheel, paddles, and rear wing. Lower and larger front spoiler. Add 30-50 bhp.
Agree on all of the above. What the other thread shows though is not actually a 458 Scuderia competitor since it is a track only car. From a straight line standpoint, I am sure an upgraded 12C is more than a match for whatever Ferrari unveils in September.
 

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A single clutch gear box would save 70kgs. A better diffuser and the P1's trick of being able to lower it's suspension, would make a very appealing track day car.
 
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