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its stunning in the flesh.. think it'll move the game on..
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I'm going to be terribly predictable... but I wish this car had kept the Newey/RB involvement but used the V12 without hybrid (even say detuned 1100rpm, I can just about I suppose live with a mere 10k rpm) instead of a hybrid v6......
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All 3 are beautiful (Valkyrie/RB003/DBS) but somehow the problem is again that they nearly look identical (like most AMS did) if you are not really much into cars ... I don't know if that is a really good strategy for a market that spans from Over-Hyper Car to mid tier Supercar ...

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All 3 are beautiful (Valkyrie/RB003/DBS) but somehow the problem is again that they nearly look identical (like most AMS did) if you are not really much into cars ... I don't know if that is a really good strategy for a market that spans from Over-Hyper Car to mid tier Supercar ...
Eh, McLaren and Porsche do it. I don't see the problem so long as all the designs look good.

If you're a billionaire and you like the design, you get the Valkyrie. If you're a 100 millionaire you get the RB-003. If you're a mere millionaire you the Vanquish. All good looking, all different levels of performance.

I'd be very happy with a Vanquish, and I'd be very happy with a Valkyrie (if I could afford it). Worst case, they sell a ton of the Vanquish, right?
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I'm going to be terribly predictable... but I wish this car had kept the Newey/RB involvement but used the V12 without hybrid (even say detuned 1100rpm, I can just about I suppose live with a mere 10k rpm) instead of a hybrid v6......
i think the clue is in the name of the car.... RB
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Eh, McLaren and Porsche do it. I don't see the problem so long as all the designs look good.

If you're a billionaire and you like the design, you get the Valkyrie. If you're a 100 millionaire you get the RB-003. If you're a mere millionaire you the Vanquish. All good looking, all different levels of performance.

I'd be very happy with a Vanquish, and I'd be very happy with a Valkyrie (if I could afford it). Worst case, they sell a ton of the Vanquish, right?

mhhh is it only me or do 570s 720s Senna and Speedtail look slightly different ??? if you refer to 570s/650s/P1 Mclaren seems to have learned that lesson quickly

For Porsche they only do 911 and sometimes something like 918 as real premium sportscars ... the 718 besides the GT4 is midlevel and in the meantime is quiet different looking to no longer be associated with the 991 992 which is a good thing ... Macan/Cayenne/Panamera are different segments and only have some relation to Porsche through design similarities ... besides that the 911 development as we all know is evolutionary but what AM is doing is having 3 lines in 3 very different market segments with high similarities (sth like a Chiron/918/R8 would look similar in the VW universe ...)

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I've never met a V6 that was worth its weight in scrap metal. They are great if you like more NVH, lousy sound and sketchy reliability.

In regards to the current V6/turbo/hybrid Formula 1 era, I still can't understand (other than frictional losses) why anyone would not run a V8 with the same, or even less displacement. Imagine F1 cars with a 1.2 liter V8/turbo/hybrid instead of today's current F1 lineage.
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I've never met a V6 that was worth its weight in scrap metal. They are great if you like more NVH, lousy sound and sketchy reliability.

In regards to the current V6/turbo/hybrid Formula 1 era, I still can't understand (other than frictional losses) why anyone would not run a V8 with the same, or even less displacement. Imagine F1 cars with a 1.2 liter V8/turbo/hybrid instead of today's current F1 lineage.
The v6 is more compact shorter crankshaft and cam lengths. As the trend is towards hybrid, space becomes a premium to include batteries, electric motors.
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mhhh is it only me or do 570s 720s Senna and Speedtail look slightly different ??? if you refer to 570s/650s/P1 Mclaren seems to have learned that lesson quickly

For Porsche they only do 911 and sometimes something like 918 as real premium sportscars ... the 718 besides the GT4 is midlevel and in the meantime is quiet different looking to no longer be associated with the 991 992 which is a good thing ... Macan/Cayenne/Panamera are different segments and only have some relation to Porsche through design similarities ... besides that the 911 development as we all know is evolutionary but what AM is doing is having 3 lines in 3 very different market segments with high similarities (sth like a Chiron/918/R8 would look similar in the VW universe ...)
718 looks like a 911 for the most part, IMO. Interiors are practically indistinguishable as well. That said, Porsche sells 911s that range from $80K-$300K, but no one seems to mind.

Macan is just a smaller Cayenne.
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I've never met a V6 that was worth its weight in scrap metal. They are great if you like more NVH, lousy sound and sketchy reliability.
Erm, the original NSX v6 definitely was worth it's weight in scrap metal, was reliable, sounded great and in no way had high levels of NVH....
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i think the clue is in the name of the car.... RB
Didn't stop RB001 having a v12!
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Erm, the original NSX v6 definitely was worth it's weight in scrap metal, was reliable, sounded great and in no way had high levels of NVH....
Exactly - a wonderful engine in a wonderful car that is twice the driving experience of much of today's crap that is faster around a circuit but inferior in most of the ways that matter.
Also, I have the sense that the V6s in recent Mercedes F1 cars (and in the forthcoming One) are decent pieces of kit.
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