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03-10-2017 12:42 PM
Hoodini
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Originally Posted by TTM0TION View Post
Haha you are correct and I hope you are correct. I suspect I'll have that exact reaction.
Believe me. You will have your mind blown.
03-10-2017 11:41 AM
TTM0TION
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Originally Posted by Hoodini View Post
I can tell you haven't seen it in person. When you do, you will get the headlights and they will blow your mind.
Haha you are correct and I hope you are correct. I suspect I'll have that exact reaction.
03-09-2017 01:53 PM
GTTX
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Originally Posted by Hoodini View Post
I can tell you haven't seen it in person. When you do, you will get the headlights and they will blow your mind.
Bunch of journalist have youtube videos of Geneva launch up now, and I have to say the purpose behind the headlights is ingenious (airflow to radiator and how the aerodynamics work).

And the DRL in the daytime makes it look wicked.
03-09-2017 01:50 PM
Hoodini
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Originally Posted by TTM0TION View Post
Eh I don't know. I don't think I've ever seen a car that looked so different from picture to picture, color to color. That front end is pretty tragic. Rest of the car is awesome though.
I can tell you haven't seen it in person. When you do, you will get the headlights and they will blow your mind.
03-08-2017 01:13 PM
GTTX Looking forward to actual 'professional' reviews once people have driven it on the track and road for feedback.
03-08-2017 01:00 PM
TTM0TION Eh I don't know. I don't think I've ever seen a car that looked so different from picture to picture, color to color. That front end is pretty tragic. Rest of the car is awesome though.
03-08-2017 10:12 AM
Hoodini Sex on wheels! am I right?
02-25-2017 02:28 AM
shack
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Originally Posted by GTTX View Post

After speaking with several former owners (primarily 650s) I heard some pretty wicked depreciation stories, so was try to do some 'extreme vetting'. That was it. It seems like a brand you kinda have to know everything going in with eyes wide open...and that's fine. But figuring it all out is another thing.

As to any desperation thoughts, it's something I always consider. I don't have money to throw out the window $100k depreciation a pop like some and always try to minimize that hit when/if possible. My process is my process as I flip in and out of cars rather quickly.

All is good with me and very much look forward to 720 indeed.
As a 650S owner who went in "wide eyes open" I can attest to the $100k tear up. Nevertheless its a awesome car and has been nothing but bullet-proof. I will wait for the 720 Spyder for sure (as that's my preference) but this time I wont cop the $100k
02-20-2017 03:07 PM
neoprufrok
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Originally Posted by GTTX View Post
Got it.

(note to self, sensitive group in McLaren forum...be careful what, how, you say things...)
I'm not that sensitive really. I just like to point out when people (this includes McLaren) do/say things that I disagree with.
02-20-2017 02:11 PM
AdmiralMubutu
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Originally Posted by bdl99 View Post
I was there are 1pm on Thursday and met up with one McLife member. So can I expect to see you at BCX cars and coffee in a 720S during the summer?
Alas, I don't think so. The wife and I are renovating an 18th century farmhouse we bought last summer. I don't think I can cut into her budget for that with an exotic car purchase and stay married. I AM planning to pick up a Focus RS however in the near future as my new daily - you should see that at BCX soon. We actually held a meet this past Saturday with the great weather around NY/NJ/PA. Duncan brought his 675LT. Awesome. I'm sure it will make more appearances.
02-20-2017 01:53 AM
EJF Really want to throw some thoughts down that I've had about the car without actually getting into nitty gritty details (I'd like to invited back in the future). I apologize in advance for being vague.

First, it was great meeting a bunch of you guys beforehand. I don't think I've ever been in a better informed group of people when it comes to cars. Incredibly refreshing talking to people about nitty gritty details rather than simply "what are you buying next" or "Why'd you buy this when you can get a corvette for 1/5 of the price." Thanks NH4 for setting up that get together.

Around the time the P1 was introduced, I remember reading a quote from Frank that went something like this, "If you think the design of the P1 is wild, wait for the replacement for the 12C." I may have just imagined the quote because I can't seem to find the article where he first said it, but either way that is the image I always had for the P14. High expectations, given that I think the extremeness is a big part of what makes it beautiful.

This thing lives up to the extremeness of the P1, particularly in the nerdy details and I believe does so in a more elegant shape than the P1. From every angle the car is beautiful at worst and mouth watering at best.

The interior is fantastic! I spent a lot of time in it given that the local dealer, who was in the passenger seat, held me captive and wouldn't let me leave! A traumatic experience of course, but in my captivity it was impossible not to notice how beautiful all of the materials are and how much care they put into the interior. It fixes a lot of the complaints and problems of the P11 platform it seems.

On the exterior, again staying vague here, it was obvious that while the demo car has all of the carbon available, the car would look equally fantastic in the standard dark palladium. I love that it makes carbon a matter of taste rather than a near necessity if you want a some contrast (I'm looking at you body color side intakes!).

Overall it was a fantastic experience, again it was great meeting a bunch of you and even though I'm still an aspiring owner (and young) I was treated as a friend.
02-19-2017 08:18 PM
KenU
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Ok, I'll apologize for misreading you then.

They sold a lot of 570s this year. We've had zero problems with ours and frankly it's very near the top of the list of the most enjoyable cars I've ever owned. Not only is it great for long drives on winding roads but it's the best run-around-town McLaren by far. The number of problems I've seen reported seems pretty small considering the number of 570S that got sold. This was their volume model this year. Dealers took a decent number of them on spec but also sold a decent number of customer-ordered cars.


This is a fair statement. I think the problem with selling used cars comes down to the fact that they simply don't have enough dealers sprinkled around the country so they tend to collect in larger markets where customers are moving from one car to another. People who live outside of the markets where the cars are don't have the opportunity to try just pop into a dealer and give them a test drive. Plus 12C and 650S were so smooth out of the gate that you needed to spend more time with them, get them on different roads & have the space to push them, for them to totally grab you because they don't have loud exhausts, they don't have boosted steering racks, they have very calm-feeling interiors and the long-travel throttle pedal makes them feel more sedate than the hair-trigger of a Ferrari. 570S, more like a Ferrari, shows you how fun it is in the first few minutes by having a more stylized interior, bouncing you around a little more and having a quicker steering rack - same is true of 675LT and P1. I think 720S will build on some of that instant-gratification. Before you even turn the ignition, the interior alone makes you think you're in something special. But I drove a friend's new 488 Spider the other day and it's clear to me that Ferrari's are trending more in the direction of McLarens now. The car was much calmer and smoother riding than my 458 Spider, the hair-trigger had been smoothed out (probably due to it being a turbo now), and the interior styling had been improved but smoothed out. If people are going to cross shop 488 with P14 then I think that goes in McLaren's favor way more often then 458 vs. 12C/650S ever went.

The P14 beats the 488 GTB in every category but I'll wait until the March 7th launch, when all the details are revealed, to explain how. The only thing the P14 lacks vs. the 488 is a spider model but I'd still rather have a P14 coupe than 488 Spider.


With three model lines (Sports, Super, Ultimate) to spread those models over I think you're going to see a nice cadence that allows each model line to breath and grow a following. Look at it this way - we know McLaren's cadence now; coupe, spider, LT coupe, LT Spider, special edition(s) and race variants. I think you can expect that cadence over the Sports Series so you're already knocking down 4 (spider, LT, LT Spider, special edition) new models out of the 15. BP23 has now received the green light and P14 will have the same 5 variants so we've eaten 10 of the 15 different models. So that only leaves 5 new models we don't know about between now and 2022 which is 7 years from now. For sure there will be a new ultimate series car in that timeframe (with likely two variants like P1 had) and I would expect a full product line refresh of Sport Series before 2022 and likely the first model of the Super Series refresh in that timeframe too as nobody would expect them to go 7 years without a refresh and P14 launches this year. So that eats up everything and maybe even more. In addition we know there will be hybrid variants for some of these cars. So something has to give. Either they don't do every variant of Sports Series and Super Series or they push off the refresh of one of them to keep it down to only 15 new models.

So not only do I think there's absolutely no reason to be worried about the "15 new models by 2022", I believe there are lots of reasons to be excited by it! And, when people see the P14 in person, and get to drive it, I suspect the market will agree with me and McLaren will be in a much better place in terms of things like having more dealerships and having a better market for used cars.


We agree on this.
Great post, Mark!
02-19-2017 08:02 PM
Hoodini
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Originally Posted by nh4 View Post
Dat ass is fine fo' sho'!

-Jamie.
Little in the middle but she got much back!
02-19-2017 07:30 PM
nh4
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Originally Posted by Hoodini View Post
Now that everyone has kissed and made up, how about the ass on the 720? Baby got back!
Dat ass is fine fo' sho'!

-Jamie.
02-19-2017 07:23 PM
Hoodini
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Originally Posted by GTTX View Post
Didn't want to copy your entire reply, but you do make some good, fair and honest points.

Well taken.

Now back to 720 talk? Agree?
Now that everyone has kissed and made up, how about the ass on the 720? Baby got back!

Anyone talked to our dear friend EVOKING to get his opinion on the 720s?
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