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It's probably about time to start a "Formula One 2018" thread
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2018 Calendar

Date Venue Formula 1 Grand Prix
25 March Melbourne Australia

8 April* Sakhir Bahrain

15 April* Shanghai China

29 April Baku Azerbaijan

13 May Barcelona Spain

27 May Monaco Monaco

10 June Montreal Canada

24 June Le Castellet France

1 July Spielberg Austria

8 July Silverstone Great Britain

22 July Hockenheim Germany

29 July Budapest Hungary

26 August Spa Belgium

2 September Monza Italy

16 Sept Singapore Singapore

30 Sept Sochi Russia

7 October Suzuka Japan

21 October Austin USA

28 October Mexico City Mexico

11 Nov Sao Paulo Brazil

25 Nov Yas Marina Abu Dhabi

* date subject to the approval of the FIA World Motor Sport Council
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GALLERY: Alfa Romeo's F1 pedigree SAUBER
30 Nov 2017
Wednesday’s news that Sauber have signed a multi-year technical and commercial partnership with Alfa Romeo means a return to F1 for a brand with a long and storied history in the sport. We take a pictorial look at the Italian marque’s past exploits at the pinnacle of motor racing…

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/f...-pedigree.html
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RED BULL TECHNOLOGY, HONDA WORKING TO BRING COMPETITIVE ENGINE TO TORO ROSSO
Move could be a sign that Red Bull Racing is eyeing future with Honda
NOVEMBER 30, 2017

Red Bull is already working with Honda, amid rumors they will go racing together in 2019.

For 2018, following the Japanese marque's breakup with McLaren, Honda will supply engines exclusively to the Red Bull junior team Toro Rosso. And Red Bull Racing consultant Dr. Helmut Marko told German broadcaster Sky that Red Bull Technology is lending a hand.

"Right now, we're working hard with Honda to make this a competitive package with Toro Rosso," Marko said. "We are very pleased with the progress Honda is making and will continue to make until the start of the season."

It is the strongest sign yet that, with Red Bull's Renault engine deal ending after 2018, a Red Bull-Honda marriage for 2019 is probable.

Marko said Red Bull will support Honda "for example with the facilities that Red Bull Technology has."

Marko said Red Bull will then stand back and track the progress of the Toro Rosso-Honda package next year.

"We'll take a look, and only then can I say in the middle of next year what we're going to do," he said.

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Brawn aiming to recruit three new carmakers into F1

By: Andrew Lewin 11/30/17
Formula 1's director of motorsport Ross Brawn has targeted three new car manufacturers to help drive the sport's expansion program.
"There are several premium manufacturers that I would like in Formula 1," Brawn told Sports Bild this week.
"Porsche is one of them," he revealed. "But also Aston Martin and Lamborghini."
Currently, the high costs of developing a bespoke engine conforming to the sport's technical regulations discourage new entrants.
But Brawn is hoping that proposals for new engine specifications from 2021 will reduce entry costs and attract new interest.
"I guarantee you, with today's power unit, no manufacturer is interested in getting started," Brawn admitted. "That's why we have to make it cheaper and easier.
"That's why we need to create an environment that's attractive to them," he added.
• Carey targets 'louder, cheaper, better' engines for F1
"We have to look at cost control for the future," Brawn added in an interview with Sky Sports F1. "We want a meritocracy, we want the best to win - but we don't want two or three seconds between the teams.”
"For 2021 we will have great-looking cars which can race each other," he promised. "We have an opportunity to start again with the engines, learn from the past and redefine what we want for the future."
However Brawn continues to rule out a return to V8, V10 or V12 engines.
"We felt that was one step too far," he explained. "We have to respect the investment the manufacturers have put in [to V6 hybrid units]."
The recent engine proposals from the sport's new owners Liberty Media have not gone down well with all existing teams. Ferrari has suggested it might veto the plans, or even quit the sport outright.
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FIA and Renault agree to delay Budkowski arrival.

Marcin Budkowski, former head of the FIA's Formula 1 technical department

By: Michael Delaney Dec 1,2017

Marcin Budkowski, the controversial FIA official hired by Renault, will only start work with the French team on April 1 of next year.

Renault and Budkowski triggered a firestorm among the F1 teams earlier this year when it was announced that the FIA's technical chief would be moving to the Enstone squad.

Privy to confidential technical information in his capacity as an FIA official who regularly visited the teams, Budkowski was suddenly perceived as a threat to F1's secrets.

Teams subsequently lobbied to delay his hiring by Renault by as much as a full year, but the manufacturer and the FIA have agreed to a compromise, with Budkowksi now scheduled to start working in Enstone next spring.

The FIA was unfortunately without any legal means to prevent its employee's move, and acted in accordance with the very strict Swiss employment law which only allows for a maximum of three months gardening leave.

"The teams were upset? The FIA was upset!" admitted FIA president Jean Todt, speaking to Motorsport.com about the Budkowski conendrum.

"I would say sometimes when you have talented engineers leaving you are never happy. Those people are under Swiss contract, and we have limitations. And so it was three-months gardening leave.

"We finally agreed with Renault that he will only start on April 1 – which means six months. That is the way it is.

"If the teams globally are not happy, it is easy that they make a gentleman's agreement among them, and they would agree that they don't hire any FIA employees or engineers, without respecting a minimum of one year's gardening leaving. They should all agree on that.

"On our side, we will try to make the most solid contract in order to protect us and to protect them, but there is little we can do."

Renault's Cyril Abiteboul confirmed that Marcin Budkowski would begin working in Enstone on April 1, 2018

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Wonder what this move by Ferrari to add Alfa Romeo means, improves chances of winning by fielding two F1 teams, or a precursor to a Ferrari leaves F1 if things don’t go Sergio Marchionne’s way FIA negotiations?

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/a...-carey-984819/
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Brawn aiming to recruit three new carmakers into F1

By: Andrew Lewin 11/30/17
Formula 1's director of motorsport Ross Brawn has targeted three new car manufacturers to help drive the sport's expansion program.
"There are several premium manufacturers that I would like in Formula 1," Brawn told Sports Bild this week.
"Porsche is one of them," he revealed. "But also Aston Martin and Lamborghini."
Currently, the high costs of developing a bespoke engine conforming to the sport's technical regulations discourage new entrants.
I continue to scratch my head in bemusement at what Aston thinks it would do in Formula One. I presume that it would be a simple branding exercise, in the same sense that Infiniti sponsored Red Bull for a while, although obviously Nissan added nothing of intellectual value to the team.
Until now, the engines in Astons were Ford or Ford-derived. Nothing wrong with that, but as such Aston seemed far from having a core of its own experts who could build a highly-sophisticated racing engine. Whatever that unit used to be, Aston is now migrating its road car drive-trains away from the Ford-based technology to buying its drive-trains directly from Mercedes. In short, on what basis would Aston imagine that they could build competitive Formula One engines?
If the idea would be for Aston to fund a JV with Cosworth, that might make sense for both parties, but in that case one might prefer that Brawn say Cosworth rather than Aston.
Maybe Brawn is pointing to Aston purposefully because he hopes the publicity will tempt them into making a commitment.
Andy Palmer may have a better idea, but I wish Aston would take the money that it proposes to spend on F1 and instead invest it in making better cars.
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Wonder what this move by Ferrari to add Alfa Romeo means, improves chances of winning by fielding two F1 teams, or a precursor to a Ferrari leaves F1 if things don’t go Sergio Marchionne’s way FIA negotiations?

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/a...-carey-984819/
For a few years Marchionne has been making it clear that Alfa needs to multiply its annual production substantially.
This deal would seem to be based on the logic that:
- Ferrari already gets as much exposure as it is going to get based on the racing performance and profile of its own team. Being a supplier to Haas and Sauber adds nothing to the brand, and might even detract from it.
- Nobody expects Alfa Romeo to build world-class engines, unlike what they expect from Ferrari. To create a new form of racing exposure for Alfa could help improve the credibility, and in turn the sales, of that brand, while Ferrari loses nothing.
- The "Alfa Romeo" PU will be the Ferrari PU, requiring effectively no additional expense from Ferrari while providing Ferrari with additional revenue and valuable usage data.

Seems pretty straightforward; one wonders why they have waited until now to do it.
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I continue to scratch my head in bemusement at what Aston thinks it would do in Formula One. I presume that it would be a simple branding exercise, in the same sense that Infiniti sponsored Red Bull for a while, although obviously Nissan added nothing of intellectual value to the team.
Until now, the engines in Astons were Ford or Ford-derived. Nothing wrong with that, but as such Aston seemed far from having a core of its own experts who could build a highly-sophisticated racing engine. Whatever that unit used to be, Aston is now migrating its road car drive-trains away from the Ford-based technology to buying its drive-trains directly from Mercedes. In short, on what basis would Aston imagine that they could build competitive Formula One engines? If the idea would be for Aston to fund a JV with Cosworth, that might make sense for both parties, but in that case one might prefer that Brawn say Cosworth rather than Aston.
Maybe Brawn is pointing to Aston purposefully because he hopes the publicity will tempt them into making a commitment. Andy Palmer may have a better idea, but I wish Aston would take the money that it proposes to spend on F1 and instead invest it in making better cars.
Yes I read in another article that Aston is also proposing a ‘hypercar’ FIA race series.

‘Palmer, on Sky Sports’ program “F1 Report,” revealed that he hopes the FIA sanctions a hypercar world championship, so to speak. The hypothetical category would provide Aston a racing series in which it could enter the track-only Valkyrie — expected to be nearly as fast as a Formula One car.’

“These are aspirational cars, but at least you know they’re possible to put on the road,” Palmer told Sky Sports. “That’s my personal wish — that yes, there will be a racing version of the Valkyrie, and it would be in whatever the successor of LMP1 is.”

https://nesn.com/2017/11/aston-marti...percar-series/

It appears that Brawn is fully supporting and providing the ‘brawn’ so to speak behind the Liberty Media push to have simpler standardized cheaper PU used in F1. As we discussed earlier my concern is that making F1 PU cheaper may detract from the high tech competition aspects of the sport. Looking forward to watching this 2020 tech rules issue play out….
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For a few years Marchionne has been making it clear that Alfa needs to multiply its annual production substantially.
This deal would seem to be based on the logic that:
- Ferrari already gets as much exposure as it is going to get based on the racing performance and profile of its own team. Being a supplier to Haas and Sauber adds nothing to the brand, and might even detract from it.
- Nobody expects Alfa Romeo to build world-class engines, unlike what they expect from Ferrari. To create a new form of racing exposure for Alfa could help improve the credibility, and in turn the sales, of that brand, while Ferrari loses nothing.
- The "Alfa Romeo" PU will be the Ferrari PU, requiring effectively no additional expense from Ferrari while providing Ferrari with additional revenue and valuable usage data.
Seems pretty straightforward; one wonders why they have waited until now to do it.
Yes. The 3 PU per year rule and grid penalties puts an emphasis on reliability. So using the Andretti IndyCar maximize your chances of winning method by having multiple constructor entries, might also be part of the Marchionne strategy. This way Ferrari PU doubles its chances—sort of gets around the 2 cars per team rule. No Ferrari would not do that would they?

Also Ferrari gets to pick Leclerc as a Alfa driver

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Interesting following these F1 off season political games/moves by the participants. Renault may have to up their game.

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Maserati plans return to Formula One
7 Dec, 2017
The Maserati Trident could be set to return to F1 for the first time since the 1950s as the brand plans to take over naming rights for Haas


Italian premium carmaker Maserati could return to Formula One as early as next year, taking over naming rights for the Haas team.

Sources insist Sergio Marchionne, who is CEO of both Ferrari and Maserati’s parent company, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, is preparing to send the Modena brand back to the Formula One fray for the first time in nearly 60 years.

The deal will give Haas, the sport’s only US team, its first major sponsor after two self-funded years in the sport, with Maserati paying a rumoured €20 million a season to paint its Trident on dark blue engine covers.


Effectively, the deal would pay all of Haas’s Ferrari V6 powertrain costs. Like Alfa Romeo’s sponsorship of perennial back marker, Sauber, it would effectively see Maserati paying Ferrari €20 million a season, via Haas. The Maserati-Haas outfit will be the fourth “Italian” team on the 2018 Formula One grid, though only Toro Rosso and Ferrari will actually be based in the country.

There is another connection that could be useful to Maserati, with the Haas chassis development and construction contracted to Maserati’s near neighbor (and sometimes collaborator), Dallara, while the team also leases wind-tunnel time from Ferrari.

Far from following through with its threat to withdraw from Formula One, Ferrari seems to be doubling down on the sport at Fiat Chrysler Automobiles’ expense, creating a three-team voting bloc against the FIA’s proposed changes to its 2019 engine regulations.

Both Haas and Sauber already ran Ferrari powertrains, though only Haas used a current powertrain this season as the cash-strapped Sauber fought on with a 2016 power unit. The new deals will see both teams use current Ferrari powertrain developments, paid for by Ferrari’s former owners, FCA.

Haas F1 VF-17

Maserati has been contacted for an official comment, but its spokespeople knew nothing of the deal.

Speaking to PlanetF1.com after the Alfa Romeo-Sauber deal, Marchionne hinted that his Formula One deal-making might not be over.

“Is it possible for the Haas arrangement to turn into something other than what we have today? The answer is potentially ‘yes’,” he said

“But we’re very far away from a resolution on that matter, but it’s possible. We’ll see, time will tell.”

Maserati's F1 history
The Maserati brand has a glorious Formula One history, albeit a long time ago, with the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio winning its last of its two driver’s championships in a 250F in 1957.

It has nine Grand Prix wins to its credit, all in the post-war 250F that was still a Formula One force in private hands into 1960 and helped Maria Teresa de Fillipis become the first woman to race in Formula One Grand Prix in 1958.

The 250F was also entered grands Prix by private teams after the demise of the factory team and saw action in the hands of World Champions like Sir Jack Brabham, Phil Hill and Mike Hawthorn, along with other big-name racers Carroll Shelby, Masten Gregory, Roy Salvadori and Jo Bonnier.

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Its last official efforts in Formula One were as an engine supplier to the British Cooper team, whose V12-powered Cooper-Maserati T81 won the Mexican and South African grands Prix with John Surtees and Pedro Rodriguez in 1966 and 1967.

It also has two Indianapolis 500 wins to its credit, with Wilbur Shaw dominating in both 1939 and 1940 in a supercharged, straight-eight 8CTF. He was leading in the same car in 1941, too, but a badly fitted wheel broke and the crash ended his career.

Maserati’s driving roster is a Who’s Who of the early years of the Formula One World Championship, including Fangio, double world champion Alberto Ascari, Louis Chiron (of Bugatti Chiron fame), Stirling Moss and Peter Collins.

While its chequered financial history kept it out of the sport in the 1970s and 1980s, former Ferrari chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo fought furiously against Maserati involvement in single-seater racing. Its closest call was as naming rights engine provider for the failed A1 championship, though di Montezemolo torpedoed that deal at the 11th hour.

It made a serious tilt at the Le Mans 24 Hour race, with Ferrari’s full approval, but the long-bodied MC12 hypercar failed to pass the “spirit of the regulations” test of the governing body, the ACO.

It consoled itself by using the glorious-looking, Enzo-based V12 to dominate the FIA GT championship for the first decade of this century, winning five team titles in a row from 2005 and four drivers’ championships, then using the same car to win the FIA GT1 title in 2010.

Maserati has seen its sales boom since it was fully reabsorbed into the FCA fold from Ferrari management, with sales growing from below 10,000 a year less than a decade ago to more than 42,000 last year on the back of its first SUV, the Levante.

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"Maserati has been contacted for an official comment, but its spokespeople knew nothing of the deal."

Really? lol, sounds like F1 to me!

"We" watch MotoGP instead until they propose a Halo for those. I know, I sound like a broken record with my F1 negativity, but Germany and Africa are tired of F1.

Good opportunity to change the races to a more US suitable timezone and let Budweiser take over the sponsoring.
I am all in for Hot dogs, $20 for a ticket and Nascar-like timing updates on top of the TV screen.

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Interesting - and encouraging - comments from Eric Boullier about his reaction when testing results of Honda's 2017 PU were very disappointing, and the prospects for the team next season (from https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...e-staff-exodus):

McLaren Formula 1 team feared Honda would cause a staff exodus

Eric Boullier admits he was concerned staff would leave McLaren when it became clear in pre-season Formula 1 testing that Honda would struggle for third successive year.Honda had revamped its engine design over the winter, but a problem with the oil system at testing was just the first of a series of issues that led to repeated breakdowns.
It was at that point racing director Boullier realised 2017 would be another difficult season and he was concerned about the impact that would have on the morale of the team.
"I went to the management, showed them the data and told them that we cannot accept another year like this," Boullier said in an interview with the official F1 website.
"We had a tough first year with Honda, we had a tough second year, and had expected progress good enough to get us back to where we belong - but Barcelona showed that we would go backwards and that was absolutely not an option.
"I obviously warned them about the consequences of another year of no results, where you keep everybody afloat.
"We have a new team, which has been reconstructed in the last three years: new people, very good new people - competitive people who used to win - and the danger was we'd lose them.
"The perception of a team is still very much based on drivers, because they are the faces of the team, but for me the real danger was losing those people.
"That was the discussion at the very beginning of the season."
McLaren and Honda ultimately agreed to part ways, with McLaren switching to Renault power for 2018 and Honda teaming up with Toro Rosso.
Boullier said no personnel ultimately left the team and there is now confidence that McLaren can move up the grid after the strong performance of the chassis in 2017.
"When you look at what we have achieved in terms of car performance - chassis performance - we know that we are back on the podium, at the top," he said.
"That for me is a huge reward - that we have achieved this in difficult circumstances.
"The other positive I take from the past three years is that the team is really joined now.
"We have been suffering so much for three years, but at the same time nobody has left the team.
"Everybody agreed that this team will be winning again.
"There is a huge trust and confidence in what we are trying to achieve and because of that we have gone up, up, up, keeping developing this car."
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Interesting - and encouraging - comments from Eric Boullier about his reaction when testing results of Honda's 2017 PU were very disappointing, and the prospects for the team next season
Yes it is interesting. However Boullier is of course giving the McLaren viewpoint on the oil tank issue. The Honda View seems to be that McLaren didn’t provide the increased g force stress loadings (affecting oil tank) that should have been anticipated with the new tires and aero, tracks etc. Also insufficient track testing cooperation. It seems like two separate companies that failed to form a team.
Anyway lessons have been learned and it is good that Boullier and the McLaren-Renault F1 team are enthusiastic about the Renault relationship and 2018 season prospects.


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