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post #31 of 43 Old 03-03-2019, 10:59 PM
 
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I don't care how fast it is with electric they just have no soul.
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I don't care how fast it is with electric they just have no soul.
We'll see how much soul it has when it actually goes on sale.

For reference, Elon is well aware of the benchmark he wants to beat.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...606976?lang=en

I would love to get a 570S first and then get the Tesla Roadster a few years later.
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That's not terrible. I thought I heard the MP4-12C was more like $8000, which is part of the reason that used ones are down to the low 100's.

The R8 is quite cheap to maintain in general. I did have to pay $700 for a new battery. 3 hours labor to remove the frunk. That's only once ever 6 years though.
That's not true.. in the 5 years I owned my 12C, maintenance was about $1800-$2200 annually.
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P90D Ludicrous actually does 0-60 in 2.65s.
After how much preparation? IIRC, the motors need to be cooled and the batteries warmed. It also appears to greatly accelerate wear. It would be interesting to see what they can do repeatedly, not as s one off, pushing their systems beyond the limits of reliability.
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After how much preparation? IIRC, the motors need to be cooled and the batteries warmed. It also appears to greatly accelerate wear. It would be interesting to see what they can do repeatedly, not as s one off, pushing their systems beyond the limits of reliability.
Don't see any preparation here, but it does need close to full charge.

P100D Ludicrous still does 2.9s at 25% battery charge and 2.5s at 75%. Not that bad.

911 Turbo S is probably the closest gasoline car for 0-60. Both are very impressive.
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It's not hating to not support a company hawking $100K cars that are taxpayer subsidized to people that fictitiously (and usually arrogantly) think they are saving the planet.

I personally don't care how fast the golf cart is. At the end of the day, I'm stuck subsidizing a 'not ready for prime time' technology, and I don't like it.

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post #37 of 43 Old 03-09-2019, 01:32 AM
 
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I currently own 458 and a Amg gtr. They are worlds apart in terms of driving feel. Without question the gtr is the better ďdriversĒ car. Iíve been fortunate to have owned a long list of incredible cars. Nothing comes close to the grunt big block push you back feel of the gtr. The barks on the down shifts are intoxicating. The power is always there and amazingly low in rpm vs the low torque high revs to go fast of the 458. On the other hand nothing makes you feel special like a 458. Itís the car everyone drools over at the stoplight....cell phones out and pics are being snapped.... girls that wouldnít look at you twice in a truck now stare and smile at you in an awkward way. Cars have come and gone in my garage over the years .... as I bore super quick but the 458 and gtr will always stay. I havenít even sat in a Mclaren so I canít speak about the 570. Just now starting the hunt for the next toy .... 720s😍
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post #38 of 43 Old 05-13-2019, 11:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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Finally going to drive these cars tomorrow. Their AMG GTR broke down, so I'm driving the Acura NSX instead. I expect the NSX to be boring compared to the others, but who knows.
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post #39 of 43 Old 05-14-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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Not sure so much on the 570 - but this year i will have track time in with the Senna, 600LT coupe, P1, 675LT and I have an AMG GT-R PRO on order that will be here in August - i will write something up comparing these cars on the track.
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post #40 of 43 Old 05-15-2019, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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After I got there, they told me that the 458 was also in the shop. I ended up driving the NSX, 570S, and 488 GTB in that order.

The NSX was definitely better than expected. Very easy to drive fast. Nice engine sound inside even with a helmet on. Heavier steering than the other cars. Probably the bargain of the 3 considering used ones are in the $120k range. Tuned cars are running 10.6 at 130mph which is at least competitive with the other cars.

570S felt much lighter in the corners. Acceleration felt a little quicker. Steering was lighter. At least as a track car, I preferred it to the NSX.

488 felt even better to drive than the 570S. Very light and quick steering. Acceleration felt pretty similar to the 570S, maybe barely quicker. A used 488 is currently about $80k more than a 570S. I don't see it being worth that much more.
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A 570 should be faster than a 488 it might just be that the 488 felt faster
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A 570 should be faster than a 488 it might just be that the 488 felt faster
Trap speeds stock are basically the same. Yes, they probably just feel different.
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Re: maintenance and warranty. I just had my 2018 570S Spider serviced for the first time and it was $1,314. Under warranty the dealer told me the service for the first 3 years would be around $1,500 year. If you choose to extend the warranty that can be done in 1 (~$3,800) or 2 (~$7,000)year increments. If you don’t extend the warranty during the initial three years you can only get the extensions in 1 year increments.
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