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post #1 of 14 Old 02-17-2019, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
 
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1000cc mp4-12c injectors?

Hey y’all!! So I’ve had my 12c for 4 years and coming from a building imports cars to 1000+whp I’ve decided to build my c12.
Already sent turbos to Wiestec (after paying i realized i could have build them for half the price). I pulled block out for the build. Now looking for 1000cc injectors.
About to send them to the injector clinic and see what they say. But figured i would come on here and see if there is any insite from the pros.

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Hey yíall!! So Iíve had my 12c for 4 years and coming from a building imports cars to 1000+whp Iíve decided to build my c12.
Already sent turbos to Wiestec (after paying i realized i could have build them for half the price). I pulled block out for the build. Now looking for 1000cc injectors.
About to send them to the injector clinic and see what they say. But figured i would come on here and see if there is any insite from the pros.



What is the way to get it for half the price?
are mitsubishi turbos what is the correct turbine?

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What is the way to get it for half the price?
are mitsubishi turbos what is the correct turbine?
Td04HL 20T for 12c

weistec uses the "22t" billet compressor (18g for td04 shaft)

Being already a TD04HL turbo, you can keep you original turbine or go with a lighter 9 blades turbine.

There are a lot of upgraded bearing available (mamba, mellett..)

Or you only need to machine the cover and vsr balance with a full chra (750$ for two)

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/MAMBA-9-6-Tu...DTT:rk:36:pf:0









Arashi is coming with ball bearing TD05 (for 720s) and TD04 (for 12c/650/570) chras.

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Exactly, Mamba has kits and take it to a machine shop that can balance and assemble

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when you realize you can can an MP4 for under $140k, even a 2014 spider then you can use what you would have spent on another model and end up with a really awesome Supercar
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Td04HL 20T for 12c

weistec uses the "22t" billet compressor (18g for td04 shaft)

Being already a TD04HL turbo, you can keep you original turbine or go with a lighter 9 blades turbine.

There are a lot of upgraded bearing available (mamba, mellett..)

Or you only need to machine the cover and vsr balance with a full chra (750$ for two)

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/MAMBA-9-6-Tu...DTT:rk:36:pf:0









Arashi is coming with ball bearing TD05 (for 720s) and TD04 (for 12c/650/570) chras.
Good info to know i know we chatted befpre about this crazy pricing on the 720 turbo upgrades too


570s use this model?
TD04HL-22T
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I'd reach out to Paul @ Injector Dynamics.
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Td04HL 20T for 12c

weistec uses the "22t" billet compressor (18g for td04 shaft)

Being already a TD04HL turbo, you can keep you original turbine or go with a lighter 9 blades turbine.

There are a lot of upgraded bearing available (mamba, mellett..)

Or you only need to machine the cover and vsr balance with a full chra (750$ for two)

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/MAMBA-9-6-Tu...DTT:rk:36:pf:0


Arashi is coming with ball bearing TD05 (for 720s) and TD04 (for 12c/650/570) chras.

thank you very much for sharing the knowledge
there are professionals who ask for a price of more than $ 10,000
for the upgrade of the turbochargers ...



Are these pieces of mamba the right one?
you have to buy them for £ 305.90 on ebay
find someone who mechanizes the turbine casings and balances.
and find a tuner to make a personalized ecu tune?
Do you need upgrade injectors?

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thank you very much for sharing the knowledge
there are professionals who ask for a price of more than $ 10,000
for the upgrade of the turbochargers ...



Are these pieces of mamba the right one?
you have to buy them for £ 305.90 on ebay
find someone who mechanizes the turbine casings and balances.
and find a tuner to make a personalized ecu tune?
Do you need upgrade injectors?
two chra, machine only compressor cover, turbine is bolt on, balance everything (even if mamba states they are already balanced), sould cost less than 1200$ all in.
Just going with new chras TD04HL 20T in case of shot turbos, mamba uses reinforced bearing for added peace of mind.

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two chra, machine only compressor cover, turbine is bolt on, balance everything (even if mamba states they are already balanced), sould cost less than 1200$ all in.
Just going with new chras TD04HL 20T in case of shot turbos, mamba uses reinforced bearing for added peace of mind.


for example, these turbos?
Are they bolt on?




http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/tu...0tmonster.aspx

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for example, these turbos?
Are they bolt on?




http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/tu...0tmonster.aspx

no they aren't, compressor covers are not the same for WG actuators mounting, you have to machine the stock cover or use custom WG arm mounting, the volvo could make the WG actuators interfere with the frame.



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Now looking for 1000cc injectors.
Check with XPRD.
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Yes I’m talking with xprd now. Thanks guys! Will update dyno results when finished

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