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post #16 of 27 Old 05-20-2016, 05:16 AM
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I made the very first 12c conversion to 650s over one year ago and needed to install new radiators and brackets to hold the headlights. The fender liners were different as well. How did you manage to for the 650s headlights?
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I made the very first 12c conversion to 650s over one year ago and needed to install new radiators and brackets to hold the headlights. The fender liners were different as well. How did you manage to for the 650s headlights?
if you don't mind me asking: outside of labor costs, what was the total parts cost to do a 650S front end conversion? curious.

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okay, personally, I much prefer the MP4 front end/ lights, even more so now that it is the only one with that front end/lights thus making it a bit more special in the world of McLaren and eventually in the collectors market (I feel). In regards to front bumpers, I have to admit I like the 50th anniversary bumper and the REVZ bumper, especially the Revz Bumper. As for extra Down Force, I do not go to the track, at least not yet, but I have easily done over 200 mph without needing more down force. I wonder in the MP4 is able to go faster than the other McLarens because it has less down force and would the extra down force you create actually make it slower?
As for what you do, I LOVE it, all of these autos are unique simply because so few produced and owners like that and pay Big Bucks for it via Bragging Rights, what you offer makes it ever more so, CONGRATS.
For most of those owning a McLaren these are TOYS they add to their collection and have fun with. For me, it is my Everyday Auto and if I could change Anything on my MP4 it would be:
- McLaren standing behind their product more and instead of excuses get solutions in a timely manner and definitely do not let owners lose out because the warranty expired, especially if it is something which has been mentioned.
- Have McLaren take Pride in the MP4, hey, it is their first and it is a major first not only for them but the whole automotive industry.
- Perhaps McLaren can support people like you who are keeping the McLaren brand alive in other ways with your mods. Perhaps McLaren can at least provide you specs on their testing as it might apply to what you do so you, so you do not have to reinvent the wheel. It is obvious you do what you do from LOVE. As you state, it may not be for everyone but it definitely will always have a place in the world.
thank you for taking obvious pride in what you do and in what you believe!!!
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As for extra Down Force, I do not go to the track, at least not yet, but I have easily done over 200 mph without needing more down force. I wonder in the MP4 is able to go faster than the other McLarens because it has less down force and would the extra down force you create actually make it slower?
a.) You do need the extra down force to drive faster in the corners, not on straights.
b.) Yes, theoretically the 12C would be faster with less down force. However, the 650S have active aero with a DRS-style position. That function was added to some 12C's as an upgrade.
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Thanks very much for showing interest and for the feedback you have given. Much appreciated gents.

This is a completely modified kit for the purpose of converting the 12C. We have modified the front bumper and fenders to easily fit onto 12C mounting points and all plugs fit brilliantly.

In reply to the question regarding the front fenders and headlight installation, we made this fender specially for the 12C and bespoke designed with headlights brackets already added to make the installation even easier.

We have now supplied this kit to few clients around the world and the result on every single project has been excellent.

Thanking everyone once again for showing interest and their supports. Your feedback and views towards this project is highly appreciated, however negative or positive they may be, we find it constructive and it's always welcomed.

Wishing everyone a pleasant day.
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Thanks very much for showing interest and for the feedback you have given. Much appreciated gents.

This is a completely modified kit for the purpose of converting the 12C. We have modified the front bumper and fenders to easily fit onto 12C mounting points and all plugs fit brilliantly.

In reply to the question regarding the front fenders and headlight installation, we made this fender specially for the 12C and bespoke designed with headlights brackets already added to make the installation even easier.

We have now supplied this kit to few clients around the world and the result on every single project has been excellent.

Thanking everyone once again for showing interest and their supports. Your feedback and views towards this project is highly appreciated, however negative or positive they may be, we find it constructive and it's always welcomed.

Wishing everyone a pleasant day.
interested in pricing on this kit. pming you
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What do you use for the headlight warnings on the dash when fitting the 650 headlamps to prevent any errors on the dash @Mas?
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I love how some MP4s are being modified or totaled, it makes my MP4 that much more rare and it is already rare. In my mind, a lot of those who get a MP4 resale cheap love tinkering with them, I doubt serious owners do much of this but I support everyone and I hope everyone loves their MP4 as much as I do...
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I love how some MP4s are being modified or totaled, it makes my MP4 that much more rare and it is already rare. In my mind, a lot of those who get a MP4 resale cheap love tinkering with them, I doubt serious owners do much of this but I support everyone and I hope everyone loves their MP4 as much as I do...
to each their own. in my opinion the mp4 headlights and front end look outdated and not as nice.
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What do you use for the headlight warnings on the dash when fitting the 650 headlamps to prevent any errors on the dash @Mas?
Never happened to any of the kits we have supplied or had fitted, but heard it happening to some owners who didn't take the precautionary steps as Body kit fitters for Super cars usually do. I highly recommend a fairly knowledgeable local garage, specially the ones who are specialist in fitting body kits and not the ones who claim to be super car specialist mechanically! a good mechanic isn't automatically a good body kit fitter!

Hence I don't think a McLaren garage is the right place for fitting a McLaren body kit, same applies to every other super car brands. A local dealership isn't specialist in fitting your aftermarket part, the most they can do is to play around for half a day and then say, sorry it doesnt fit, they still seem to be charging you for their precious time "trying" to fit this part which wasn't purchased from them "hence" it doesn't fit!

Trust me, that's the case in nearly every Dealership or the so called specialist garages and I speak from experience after working in some of the most reputable dealerships in the world, don't throw your money away by giving your car to these garages

Even those body shop repairs aren't the best option, as they're mostly used to fitting and removing standard body panels, not upgrades and completely different design body kits. You do need a body kit installer for the best result and there are many in every city around the world nowadays.

It's usually caused due to simply forgetting to take some basic precautionary steps before starting the headlight installation, or to be frank any electrically operated device such as the Speedometer etc!

From experience these cars have a very sensitive system and you have to make sure the car is always fully charged. Specially the 12C, I see the battery is very weak or way too sensitive, before performing any work, either drive the car for a while or always have your battery chargers on while kept garaged. I'm afraid in some cases I witnessed the owner needed a brand new battery which isn't cheap, as nothing is with McLaren cars. If that didn't get rid of the light, find a local ECU programmer and have him remove the warning light on the system.

We have now supplied our kits including this 675LT to some of the most famous brands and their McLaren projects around the world, many of these cars are still making headlines and attending shows around the world.

The good news is, many 650S owners have also benefited from this upgrade, As mentioned by @2013MP4-12C each to their own, I do think upgrading is a personal preference and in my opinion it makes some cars look fresh and in many cases more unique.

In fact we have completely transformed a 650S to a 675LT! that's including the entire front and rear end, even speedometer and some interior parts were changed to 675LT spec... once again this is a personal preference, the owner wanted this upgrade and we happily supplied.

We supply:
P1 Style Bonnet/Hood for both 12C and 650S
Louvered 12C Fenders/Arches.
675LT Style Side skirts conversion for both 650S and 12C!
And many more upgrades such as diffusers, bumpers etc!

Please always remember, a body kit or usually any body panel/aerodynamic part upgrade which is an aftermarket part, by no means should be treated as a mechanical upgrade where you simply remove a part and the replacement bolts right in its place! such an exhaust for example! hence a body kit specialist is required for the best result. The whole world is using body kits now and only those who are sourced from a professional manufacturer and fitted by a professional body kit installer are the ones catching the right attention. we have all seen those odd upgrades with huge gaps between panels!

If you need a reliable carbon upgrade then please contact the guys at Dizell.com

Sorry for the long write up, which I know Im not good at and thank you for giving your time to read through.

Wishing everyone a blessed day

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Hi Mas, I didn't use a garage I did it myself at home and used all genuine parts.

As for the headlights the pin outs are clearly different to the 650s, specifically the dimming of the DRL circuit hence the question do you use an adapter for your conversions or do you simply swap the pins? If so which pins did you use, my lamps are fully functional, I just have a lamp warning on my dash when i switch to sidelight.

Jess, I am "serious owner", as above each to their own, if you like yours the way it is then leave it, but don't give your opinion on others who want to modify theirs...
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